70% off
doesn’t seem to be true? lowest recently was 132.15 which is less than 23% off the peak of 170.86. and that wasn’t even a closing price; by the day’s end it was back above 135 and the stock has never closed below 135.
Hype always has an expiration date.
Link: “Like guarantees of future returns, this page doesn’t exist.”
Good, keep going down. I can’t wait until all of it literally blows up in Elon’s stupid-looking face.
The problem is he and others have cashed out at the expense of retirement portfolios.
I mean, yeah but, suits them right? Imo they went in with greed/hype mindset, not investment mindset.
A significant portion of the working class doesn’t know shit about how their 401k works, they’re just told that’s how they’ll be able to retire
Just because a stock has lost 70% of its value doesn’t mean it can’t lose 70% more.
Jokes on you because it never had any real value to begin with
While I detest Elon, the company definitely has some value. They’re still the global launch leader at this time. That said, their valuation based on promises of AI and asteroid mining is complete nonsense.
It had value, before it bought xAI.
Now there’s an infinite money pit attached to it
Rocket launch, Twitter and xAI is roughly a zero valuation.
Starlink the worlds fastest growing ISP, while having an enormous profit margin is the bread and butter. From a serious perspective, also what you should aim the valuation for.
Did their IPO launch at a fair valuation? Hell nah
Starlink the worlds fastest growing ISP, while having an enormous profit margin is the bread and butter.
Starlink has only had one profitable year ($70m total), and that’s only if you exclude the cost of rocket launches and only count selling end user hardware and subscriptions.
The whole scheme is a shitshow of one company propping up another with fake revenues and profits.
Or
If people are stupid enough to invest without understanding valuation, then they deserve poverty.
Sure, but you are talking about being the leader in an industry that has historically been the profitless province of state sponsored exploration, scientific discovery, with supplementing industrial functions as a value-add. It is not a given what value there actually is in being the leader in this field.
Look up AST, better tech and is used by most of the major carriers.
It’s almost like things are fundamentally different now from “historically.” Historically, we (I’m in the launch vehicle industry) didn’t have reusable launch vehicles. Even 10 years ago the launch community was hugely skeptical of being able to successfully refurbish a rocket and maintain mission assurance.
My point is that most of the launches being performed now are not state sponsored or for scientific discovery. You are looking at it from the lens of a period when there were only two providers and only a few customers. With tons of commercial companies interested in proliferated LEO programs, there is a lot of profit in launch.
However, that STILL only gives the stock a value of around $8/share.
If you took the state funding out of Space X how much money do they make?
NASA flies roughly 3 missions per year. DoD/DoW launches around 12 missions per year. NRO launches around 5 per year. That is a total of around 20 government missions per year. SpaceX launches roughly 150 missions per year, so removing state funding would only take out about 13% of their $18 billion annual revenue. 100 of those launches are Starlink, which gets funded by both commercial, private users, and government users.
Revenue is not profit. 13% is likely more than their profit margins.
That 18 billion in revenue already results in an operating loss of 4 billion a year. So its a little odd to hear you act like “only” losing another 13% is insignificant since it would increase their loss by about 30%.
Also, that is assuming that all launches cost the same, which is probably not the case at all. The NASA launches are likely considerably more costly than Starlink launches.
That was because it was so costly to get even a single kg into orbit. The commercial satellite industry is a quarter of a trillion dollars and growing in part because the cost to get stuff in orbit is going down.
And other countries have reusable rockets, namely China and Japan.
Let’s strive for 100%. Normally I find 70% a totally acceptable percentage, but when it comes to loss of value of anything fElon owns I think 100% loss would be the more favorable outcome. Or even better, let it be 120%, I’d love to see that loser to be in debt the rest of his miserable life.
He’s already in massive debt because he is constantly leveraged on stock value to avoid taxation. Sooner or later the scheme will fail, which is bad for him unless he can buy another President to get welfare.
That sleezy crook will always find a way to get on top, no matter the cost. He has no moral compass. Look at cutting USAID. The estimate cost of lives so far is between 600.000 and 1.200.000, although other sources claim it to be even higher. And those numbers are only until now. Estimates for the coming years are much higher. But our Musketeer got his rocket ship funding (taking away healthcare and food from Americans) so he couldn’t care less.
Displaying tit can lose 70% again.
Fingers crossed!
So, another rug pull. Who could hand guessed
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The floor for this stock is under $30.
The standard window is 180 days (about six months). What makes SpaceX unusual is that its lockup, as described in the company’s S-1 filing, releases shares in stages rather than all at once, so portions of employee stock are expected to become sellable at several points during that six-month period rather than only at the very end.
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- After the first quarterly earnings release as a public company (the quarter ending June 30, with the report expected sometime between mid-July and September), up to 20% of eligible locked-up shares become sellable.
- A performance-based early release of up to an additional 10% can unlock if the Class A shares trade at least 30% above the IPO price on at least five of ten consecutive trading days before that first earnings release.
- Five time-based tranches of up to 7% each release at 70, 90, 105, 120, and 135 days after the IPO (about 35% in total across those dates).
- After the second quarterly earnings release (the quarter ending September 30, expected between mid-October and December), up to an additional 28% becomes eligible.
- At the 180-day mark (around mid-December for a mid-June IPO), any remaining restrictions lift. https://www.axonwm.com/post/when-can-spacex-employees-sell-shares-after-ipo
Musk has been compensating his employees with stocks instead of salaries for 20 years. Some of those older employees were “paid in” at $3-4 after splits while employee’s as recent as 2024 would be holding shares @ ~ $30.
I’m going to assume the current downward pressure is people anticipating this late-july deadline allowing SPCX employees to sell off the first 20% of their stocks.
Same is true for TSLA but sunk cost fallacy is very powerful with cult investors.
This was me in my twenties.
So you’re claiming not to be full of shit anymore…?
🤔
It’s pretty common for stock to drop after IPO. This is just a bigger drop than usual.
I’m glad S&P didn’t give in to SpaceX’s demand to add them to the S&P 500.
True, though they did get into the NASDAQ-100 early and the Russell indices early.
People that invest into Nasdaq 100 are already accepting higher risks though. I’ve got some QQQM but it’s a pretty small part of my portfolio.
I think that’s low enough to demote Musk from trillionaire back down to just obscenely wealthy.
That’s actually old news, of which I was surprised. I went looking yesterday :)
https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/elon-musk-loses-trillionaire-status-233940906.html
Hmmm, sounds like it’s almost time to go on Amazon and sell some “I bought SPCX before I knew Elon was crazy” bumper stickers.
“I sold SPCX because I knew Elon was crazy”
From good ol’ Liberal Fig Leaves, LLC
Thus proving again that these numbers have little meaning.
And yet people want to tax the imaginary number
Yeah. I’m a millionnaire everytime I play the slot machine, at least while it runs.
Yes and no. Lets not forget that 800B came from working class retail investors. Which while they maybe be insufferable idiots they still have more in common with us than the billionaire fucks using retail investors as exit liquidity.
No, I’m not that stupid yet. Maybe when dementia kicks in Elon will look like genius.
Keep going; there’s a lot to lose before it’s a realistic value.
Wealthsimple Canada advertised that clients could buy shares at IPO prices, but they couldn’t sell their shares right away. Why would I do that?!?
Now add Tesla to spaceX so they all can go down.
Now that both China and Japan have recently demonstrated having reusable rockets, SpaceX’s cash cow has lost its luster.