INVESTIGATE TRUMP
I genuinely feel like I’m going insane when the Dems haven’t made a “we’ll impeach Trump if elected” promise. Not that I’d believe them, but it seems like that should be a talking point.
He’s not the target any more because it’s been proven that he is completely immune politically and legally. They should do what they never did which is to go after all the co-conspirators first starting with the lowest then keep flipping them until you have everyone. If you eventually get the Don before the clock runs out, that’s a bonus.
Might be a strategy to capture some disgruntled MAGA folks, and not make them rally for their führer
He should be imprisoned for many reasons, but the cutting off Starshield/Starlink to Ukraine to keep its defensive drones from intercepting Russian jet drones should see him in front of a firing squad.
If I recall correctly, he came tp the US as an alien and worked illegally originally. Sounds like a reason for stripping citizenship and deportation.
I feel like I could bet on Musk paying to kill any investigation brought up by the Dems should they win.
to even the playing field, republicans should promise the same! they are good at this promising game~
Just win the damn elections first and worry about that after. This is basic football, catch the ball first, THEN run. Planning before execution leads to incomplete passes, or interceptions.
I mean…you should also have a plan on what to do when you have the ball, right? Or is every time you catch a football, it’s your first time thinking about what you’re gonna do next?
“Hey guys, I’m not going to tell you what I plan to do with power once I get it because Shartgargle says it’s the best option. Vote for me, though.”
It’s called having a platform. Saying what you’re gunna do if you win is the whole point of campaigning.
Investigating people isn’t a platform.
But at least they have to tell the voters roughly what they want to do so the voters know what they are actually voting for. So ‘just win the damn elections’ should include some indication of their priorities.
It’s a trap though. Lots of people criticize candidates for being only anti-Whatever and not caring about local citizens or having a plan for local issues.
Although throwing MAGA in jail is the most important thing to help local citizens and issues, IMO.
Absolutely, on policy that’s important. But announcing investigations before your capable of doing so is likely to just make him throw in another $300 million to keep that from happening.
Bullshit. They’ll capitulate as they always do. Their only use is to unseat the fascist. Once that is done. We can work to unseat them, and then put someone in the Shite House that will actually do the work.
And then election time will come and we’ll get another republican president.
All that doge shit was extremely illegal and everyone involved should be tried
Funny, it’s at the top of my list to fight that fucker if I ever see him in person
Dodge cuts killed people and reduced US soft influence. its leader needs to be investigated. especially for hiring Big balls
Revoke his citizenship, nationalize his shit, throw him in prison for a while, and then deport his ass.
Honestly he should shot and bury his corpse 6 feet under
No. Hang him. What more evidence do you need of his immense traitorous harm to America and the working class around the world that would require investigation? You’ll lethally inject one person for egregious crimes against one other person, but you’ll dither and fret over bringing meaningful consequence to set an example when it’s someone who has directly harmed millions worldwide and condemned an entire generation to immeasureable struggle and unprecedented crises. It’s vile and pathetic. At this point investigation is a very clear delay and distract tactic, and we all know why this is the best the good cop half of this corporate capital party has to offer.
Just like the Dems have investigated January 6th? I’m sure the consequences will be devastating for him.
That was the feckless Biden Administration. They fucked up royally, and got MAGA elected again. The Dems won’t be making that mistake again, or they know they’ll find themselves in the same hot seat as MAGA. You may not think the Dems are going to follow up, but the MAGAs certainly do. DC criminal defense lawyers are reporting that business is way up, with potential investigative targets booking their favorite attorney now.
The Dems are already making plans for the investigations. Dems know that even if they could pass legislation, the Demented Queen won’t sign it, so the next 2 years are going to focus on Investigations. The plans are already in motion, witness lists are being drawn up, and subpoenas will be issued quickly.
Some people, like Musk, are going to be busy running from one Congressional investigation to another. They won’t have time to get in future trouble while they are vigorously defending themselves against past trouble.
What I’m about to state is not a personal attack. We can discuss this without hatred even if we end the discussion by agreeing to disagree.
Biden had 4 years to prevent Trumps 2nd term. Biden had arguably the best intel in the world in the world working for him. He had an abundance of resources. One self sabotage (if you want to call it that) was Democrats choosing to have Kamala run against Trump last minute. Even if it wasn’t last minute, Kamala is a minority and a woman which is a major disadvantage. Not to make this a race discussion but a white woman couldn’t even beat Trump. I’m not trying to make this about race but we can’t ignore that.
Democrats didn’t mess up. They were complicit.
Democrats and the Biden Admin giving the 2024 election the old-college-try to stop Trump getting reelected wasn’t a fumble. They threw the game on purpose. They were fully aware of what was at stake and the climate they were in. Democrats aren’t making mistakes. They are letting changes happen and then acting appalled. A sweep in the midterms will only slow down the train but they won’t stop it. They can’t stop it. The system is broken and has giren significantly more broken in recent years.
the same way 8 years of obama paved the way for trump, pro-billionaire democrats doing nothing for the working class because they have the same donors as the republicans
Exactly. Goes back even further too. This was a long time in the making
Why are they so obsessed with investigations but never the other parts of the process, like arrests, bringing charges, trials, and sentencing?
To do any of those subsequent steps, you have to have something legal experts call “an actual case.”
It’s hard when your investigations are based on Internet conspiracy theories and sovereign citizen levels of bullshit.
Because it’s all theatre.
Musk will just move his money back to the DNC.
Yeup. It should be clear still that this is not a reason not to vote D in midterms though.
And it should be noted how the Trump prosecution case stopped when he became president. So it’s not at all unimportant who wields the power when it comes to these court cases.
Edit: I read this first thing after waking up and skimmed over the double negative. That’s my bad lol. 😅
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Yeah, since nothing’ll change, let’s just keep everything the same, because this is going just swell.
Not a reason to vote D my fucking ass.
It took me a few reads to click with the double negative too.
Not a reason to vote D my fucking ass.
I’m sorry for being so double negative
I read this first thing after waking up and skimmed over the double negative. That’s my bad lol. 😅
I should have known better seeing as you’re not from .ml
Of all things to ‘both sides’ this is stupid. One group is actually following due process, the other is literally ignoring due process and intercepting any attempt to reign in corruption.
And none of that ‘controlled opposition’ patter, due process was moving forward until Trump was re-elected and every bit of opposition was summarily dismantled and dismissed.
One group is actually following due process
Womp womp, that’s the joke.
due process was moving forward until Trump was re-elected
They collectively dragged their ass for four years. An obscenity.
Not to mention, Harris took a knee in the last election (why is a mystery but I bet it was $$$).
You know they generally don’t advertise for Republican votes in Presidential campaigns, don’t you? Harris did (“he doesn’t have to know how you voted”, unprecedented R outreach). Everybody knows that you need independent votes to win, it’s basic math.
I’ve voted, and you should too. But know the game, don’t fall for the dog-and-pony show, that’s the patter. You are repeating the D party line, and you can’t get more patter than that, friend.
The fact is, one party has an active and stated goal of stripping the US for parts and the people of their rights. The other is headed up by milque toast corpo stooges. I shouldn’t have to write a manifesto detailing the ills and failures of both parties to point out that basic but distinct difference in approaches. Dems are political mercenaries at best, Repubs actively campaign on removing rights.
And I’d love to see the D Party actually run on holding people accountable. Let’s not pretend that is an active campaign goal for the Dems. I’d die to hear basic patter like that from Dem leadership. 99% of the time they run to the middle like you pointed out.
I mean investigations are the first part of due process. I agree the rest needs to follow, but an investigation is the start of things.
We also need to quit electing people who like to scuttle investigations, destroy evidence, and stymie witnesses/victims. That is the bigger hindrance to due process.
investigations are the first part of due process.
That is also the only part that the legislative branch can really do. Based on what is found during investigations, they can recommend charges, but that’s about it. Arrests and charges come from the executive branch. Trial and sentencing come from the judicial branch. This separation of power is a safeguard against king shit, and believe it or not, the king shit we’re seeing in action is still less absolute than it could be if not for some power not yet ceded to the executive.
Many of those things are clearly against the law and those perpetrators need to be held accountable (in 2 years, after they can no longer pay for pardons)
Because you can’t arrest, charge, and bring to trial people without evidence, which is what the investigation is for.
High on optimism I see. You forget the only reason musk is back in the loop (along with the rest of the billionaire barons) is to rig the midterm results. Dems aren’t getting elected.
If you have 7 people on a bus, 3 vote to drive off a cliff, 2 vote not to drive over a cliff, and 2 don’t vote… You’re going off a cliff.
maybe vote and stop cuckholding to the russian bots.
Nah screw that. I’m voting, and if you aren’t a bitch you’ll vote too.
Unless you wanna sit up there on your lame ass high horse and not be accountable for anything.
and not be accountable for anything.
and pretend to not be accountable for anything. FTFY