• Fmstrat@lemmy.world
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    To be clear, these raises aren’t a bad thing. Mamdani just recognizes he as an individual doesn’t need one.

    If Mamdani signs the bill, it would mark the first City Council raise since 2016.

    The pay raises were recommended by a commission appointed by Mamdani earlier this year.

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      In fact, it is dangerous to pay politicians too little. When a person has power but the pay is too little, that person has a strong incentive to make up the difference through corruption.

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        Good thing then Americans voted for an incorruptible billionaire for president.

        Sorry for the snark. It’s of course accurate that it’s easier to bribe people when they make little money through honest means.

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          It’s both.

          I used to be close family friends with a man who is now a Congressman. He was my air conditioning repairman when I was little, and when he moved to DC without the wealth many other politicians had, he had a hard time paying for things like having houses in DC and back in the district.

          He ended up doing little favors here and there to help pay rent, and it was a slippery slope to him bec9ming super corrupt.

          We no longer speak.

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    Why is this guy so great???

    He is exactly what this country needs right now. We need more progressives to follow in his steps. Maybe one state at a time we can make this place NOT a shithole anymore.

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      He is just doing things a lot of people would do if they weren’t easily corrupted by money

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          They’re not entirely off the mark though. Native-born Americans are pretty spoiled and complacent, on average. Immigrants, even kids, tend to have more of a sense of context and a sort of hustle mentality. My wife’s an immigrant and we’ve talked at length about it.

          You’re right that he’s as American as any other citizen in ways that matter, but born-and-raised Americans are more likely to get swept up in our bread and circuses.

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      hes not and no hes not, we need real socialists not fake leftist plants meant to relieve some pressure against capitalism to keep it going for another 30 years 😒

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        If fake leftism gets me real leftist policies, then I’ll take fake leftism so that I can stop worrying about how I’m going to just live each month. Then I can worry about the next 30 years. Glad you’re in such a comfortable and presumably wealthy spot in your life that you get to be upset about good things happening to people

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          Now now, that’s not fair. They chose a username that makes them think about advocating for trains every now and then, and while that’s not something, that’s not not something neither.

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    On WABC (AM 770 in my area) they literally tried to put a negative spin on this! Apparently, since he’s already a millionaire, he doesn’t need it! Evil guy! They even played the clip of him talking about going door to door and no one told him they’re concerned the mayor doesn’t make enough. Beyond fucking delusional. I turn that shit on when I’m looking for maximum and immediate cognitive dissonance.

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    “I just haven’t knocked on anyone’s door in New York City and they’ve said their concern is that the mayor makes too little,” Mamdani said.

    Common Mamdani W

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        I upvoted you because I felt bad about how many downvotes you have.

        Psyche, I downvoted you.

        The .ml cult nets another L.

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        Oh I was about to reply in earnest about how fucking retarded that statement is but I spotted the .ml just in time and saved us both the trouble. My condolences.

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          I know a lot of wonderful individuals who deserve the dignity of not having that slur used in common parlance and also not having their disabilities being compared to .ml users. The .ml guys are almost universally bad people and they are not.

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            Well we’re probably thinking of different words then.

            Having disabilities, disease, cognitive challenges or neurological differences, has nothing to do with being retarded. That’s reserved for the willful stupidity, authoritarians, and otherwise those politically active while being divorced from reality.

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              It was the official designation for intellectual disability in the icd 9. While the icd 10 was released in 1993 America didn’t fully transition to icd 10 until like 2014-2015. Aside from the clinical aspect anyone whos older than like 11 years old and speaks English is very aware that word is used to disparage someone’s opinion by comparing them to the intellectually disabled.

              You can decide to ignore that very real and very recent history to assuage your guilt for saying slurs but it doesn’t change the fact that you’re saying slurs and doubling down because you can’t stand being called out for talking like a 13 year old call of duty player

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                Yes, I will happily continue to misuse slurs. But thanks for the history lesson. I also call myself an “idiot” and “moron” with some frequency, so if that’s indeed how language works then I suppose I may have some claim to the slur…

                However, I don’t think linguistics works like that. Perhaps you learned nothing from the endless cycle of prescriptive rebranding, but many others have. I find much personal utility in these sorts of words, with very directed usage and now even my explicitly declared intent.

                If you or anyone else was offended or personally hurt by an (obviously understandable) misunderstanding, then I wish to make it very clear that I sincerely apologize for any undue harm, as my intended target was not you and I wasn’t using the same word you’re thinking of. But if you wish to stubbornly continue to take something else from them other than what I mean, and after I’ve elaborated on what I meant,… then that’s not really my problem anymore. After that, you’re not really “calling me out” so much as just being wrong

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    I have no problem with him getting a raise, he deserves it. Could have made a whole lot more money being corrupt

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    Okay so whats he gonna do? They won’t take it back and they can’t legally rewrite his check with a different amount.

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      Basically the city council is catching up on backlog and the last two mayors had a mandate to convene a pay commission and failed to do so. Mamdani and the person who led the commission both declined the raise but moved it forward. I honestly think they’re trying to clean up house and a pay raise after 10 years isn’t crazy. This comes after they already addressed the budget deficit he inherited, passed the luxury second home tax and cut out almost 2 billion dollars of expenses iirc.

      When I got to leadership at work, the first year I reviewed the budget, interviewed employees for their long term career goals, helped make them annual goals to get there and quarterly coaching check ins. Recommended raises for everyone who was underpaid and or promotions for all who earned it or were already assuming the responsibilities without the title. Everyone got COLA and everyone got a bonus tied to kpi. I know public sector is different but a good leader makes sure people are taken care of. One of the most expensive cities in the world going 10 years without addressing the pay is crazy. Its all officials even city attorneys who could leave and make double at any corporate firm in ny

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        I think the person you’re replying to was responding to this bit from the article:

        The pay raises were recommended by a commission appointed by Mamdani earlier this year.

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      As far as I understand it, this is probably not a pay raise. The news says that it would be the first raise since 2016. If you look at the inflation of USA, you can see that $100 in 2016 are $138 today. So if you raise it by 18%, you have not even covered the inflation.

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        I looked up their salaries and they seem plenty even by NYC standards. So a pay cut doesn’t seem like a big problem to me.

        I’m open to hearing why this was needed but so far I haven’t seen a good reason for it.

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          Did you look up the policy around increasing salaries? Because I can guarantee you there’s a policy for civil servants that either pegs salaries to inflation or pegs it to comparable wages in similar positions.

          So the people who he hired went to apply existing policy, and he said “no.” And they said “OK.”

          All seems perfectly reasonable to me. Salaries need to keep up with inflation when there’s no disposable income. At his level, there’s already plenty of disposable income, and he’s independently wealthy.

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        This was a recommendation from a commission which as I understand was appointed by Mamdani. Obviously he doesn’t have total control over them but it seems he would at least have a lot of influence.

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          Why would he try to influence them? Why go through the process of selecting a commission just to push them to make every decision like he would?