huh, so that’s Thiel’s antichrist I guess
USA will ask how the shareholders will cope.
“Oh that’s it, he’s going to Hell for sure!” -MAGA
We do. There are like 3 countries that don’t… Oh yeah, makes sense.
I wonder how many countries’ healthcare the Vatican hoard could fund in perpetuity. The number is greater than one.
I was actually surprised to find out LDS (mormons) are several times wealthier than the Catholic Church on paper.
Their total revenue is around $30 billion a year. They could, in theory, pay for an entire states medical costs like Utah that spends about $18 billion a year.
Spefically pointed to your comment though, the Catholic Church is already the biggest private healthcare provider in the world. It operates roughly twenty percent of healthcare facilities in the world.
Those are great points. What payment model do the Catholic hospitals usually use? Free to everyone? Or are they operating the hospitals but only under whatever insurance or government coverage exists? I’m sure it varies around the world but I’m curious about the US especially. I think I was born in a Catholic founded hospital. But it seems like they are just the care provider and not so much the funding provider. The world “healthcare” has two meanings in this way.
Catholic hospitals are private in the US, unless specifically otherwise designated. You can pull up the public finance records to see how revenue is spent, to the best of my knowledge.
Yes, they do not pay all the costs. Often times they will write off debts or provide care for free. This is not always the case though. Typically they are funded like a for profit hospital with the major difference being there are no shareholders to take the profit.
I have heard estimates that they subsidize $60 billion a year in healthcare costs across the US.
I was trying to get a clearer picture of how many countries the Catholic Church could fund annually but estimating their money is very complicated. They are not centralized like the Mormon church and all their churches operate independently.
With estimates as high as $2 trillion of total revenue, in theory, they could pay for several European countries. But not something like the whole US that spends $5.3 trillion on healthcare.
I think this also touches on just general criticism of the Catholic church. Are they really good stewards of their money, is corruption a problem, etc. I have read a lot of conflicting information on these topics.
As an American, he would be familiar with the consequences of not having it.
American Christians: “Oh my god! The pope is a commie socialist woke antifa!”
Among evangelical hardliners it’s not an uncommon belief that the Pope is the Anti Christ, so…
Hell Catholics weren’t considered white for a long time
They certainly faced discrimination but I don’t think it was a factor in race
I mean, every single time they have assumed the Pope is the Antichrist in the last 50 years they’ve been wrong, so surely this time.
A stopped clock is right twice a day!
For many christians, “christianity” is a social club they strongly belong to, not an actual religion. They don’t give a fuck about what the bible is actually trying to convey, they just use the bible as a tackboard to pin their own beliefs and desires onto.
You described almost every religion ever.
Religion is a mental disorder. Prove me wrong. (with actual studies and not anecdotes)
Religion is just ceremony and doctrine surrounding belief.
A bit like having cake and a party, because you believe the earth completing a lap of the sun dated from the day of your birth is worth celebrating. Or having someone arrested and taken to court and sent to prison for stealing from you, because you and many others in society believe in concepts like personal property, and justice, and morality. You know, all those things you believe in that definitely exist, even though you’ve never seen a photo of morality, or seen a scientific study proving that justice exists. But they must do because old books say so, and so do your peers, and anyway our whole society would fall apart if people stopped believing in them.
Humans, simply put, are weird. We’re a species composed of mental disorders unique to us and nothing else in nature. To single out religion as being especially weird and worthy of contempt is… well… a bit weird and worthy of contempt, IMO
Yea go ahead and get back to me when a birthday party involves killing someone and celebrating it.
So celebrating murder is the benchmark for insanity? Public executions used to draw big crowds, nothing to do with religion. Armies still give ceremonial medals for particularly inventive or brave killing, again, nothing to do with religion. Luigi Mangelone is celebrated by many for murder… admittedly the murder of a corporate ‘hands off’ serial killer, but still - its celebrating murder.
Again, I say, people are strange enough already - religion is barely even the icing on the cake.
Yea people are crazy, so why would you defend something that makes them even less attached to reality??
Religion is just ceremony and doctrine surrounding belief.
A bit like having cake and a party, because you believe the earth completing a lap of the sun dated from the day of your birth is worth celebrating.
Cakes, parties, planets, the Sun, rotation, years, are all real. Your gods aren’t.
Bread, wine, communion, annual religious festivities are also all real. Gods may not be real, but neither are a lot of human concepts. Good, evil, justice, aesthetics, mathematics, class, debt, trust, freedom… any number of things we believe exist but do not have any physical presence in the universe, no proof outside of human inference and intuition (and the occasional bit of paperwork) that they exist. They all, however, have their uses, and their effects are made manifest by our actions, for good and ill.
“Those who dance are thought insane by those who cannot hear the music”
Religion is one of human basic mental needs, unfortunately. Oh, prove me wrong. (with actual studies and not anecdotes)
Aren’t the least religious countries on Earth generally the happiest ones?
The least religious countries are those without a strong central organized religion. The people there are still mostly religious, just on an individual level - I live in one of those, I can see it all around.
I live in one of those, I can see it all around.
Prove it (with actual studies and not anecdotes)
Life satisfaction of the mentally unstable is a curious measure to go by. Everybody knows being totally fine in an unhealthy world is a sign of mental disorder itself…
“You should be nice to people”
How does this need proof? Something like Buddhism isn’t saying “this is how the world is” more like “these attitudes might be helpful to you” - there is nothing there to prove.
Of course if you think that a gigantic sky daddy wants you to invade a country because the man on TV said so, then perhaps you should reassess some things.Exactly. and the vast majority of how ‘religion’ is used today is …
Yesterday I would have said intermittent fasting.
Today? IDK probably getting their internal monologues to shut the fuck up for a bit.Silencing the inner monologue over the most bsnal explanations and/or wishful thinking ever is … a mental disorder.
There is much wrong with the world. To pretend otherwise is at best denial.
Vast majority? Christianity and Islam combined make up about 66% of the religious population. Which other religions have a sizeable amount of people and conduct crusades?
I hate to break it to you, but those 66% are conducting crusades… Just look at all the fucking brainless Christogooners celebrating the war on Iran…
No, not all Christians/Islamists are bad, but their religions are.
Buddhism isn’t a religion as there is no deity to worship. Isn’t it more a philosophy?
One of the most Christian things I’ve heard from a pope in quite a long time
Right. There’s been more than a few bad eggs on that throne lately. Occasional hope, but then back to hate.
That’s rather pointed as there is only one first world country that does not have universal healthcare.
Sort of. A lot of us (countries) have some kind of public healthcare, but it’s not really universal.
From experience in Australia: dental isn’t included, physio is limited, out of pocket costs can be large for non-hospital visits because it’s not a public system just a private subsidy model (mostly), wait times for “elective” surgery can be way, way longer on the public system because private health is permitted to exist and the public system is underfunded/understaffed.
What’s worse is that private health cover is allowed to just cover the difference between public and private, meaning even if you go private, the public is still paying. Like, you wanna be private, fuck off and go be private then… (Talking to the private healthcare advocates, not the people. I have some level of private healthcare cover, even though I think it’s a fucking stupid system)
List goes on.
It’s WAY better than the US, but I refuse to call it universal.
Hear hear!
Trump will invade Vatican City.
This is not the kind of Popeing he paid for.
You hate to see pedophile-on-pedophile violence like this.
The old “Do as we say, not as we do” gambit.
Vatican doesn’t have public health care?
Interesting thought. If tithing to the catholic church paid for my healthcare, I’d consider signing up.
In Rome like half of the hospitals were ran by the church before they got privatized with neoliberalism
He’s literally not the first American pope wtf
Well he’s certainly not the first pope that came from the America continent if that’s what you mean. Still, the word “American” is being used to generalise US Americans as a whole.
“Eat a dick” responded America, as they drove their gelatinous little tax-breaks to catecism so they could learn how to better hate the colored couple at the end of the street.
MAGA: He is neither a true American nor a true christian.
Down with the red sox! Down with the cubs! Down with the pope!!
/s
red sox are boston. white sox are chicago
Sorry, not American. Just what percolated in my mind about the pope being a fan of something