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  • That is not really accurate for the great depression as the infrastructure definitely collapsed, but I get your point.

    I think there is a profound disconnect here about the power of the people. That is my bigger point that humans will suffer through far far far worse than what we are dealing with now without any sort of pushback.

    In some ways it feels like this is almost a mythology when you compare people protesting to getting what they want. The only times this seems to happen is when the wealthy and the common man’s goals align and increasingly in our modern world this is dictated by the persuasive propaganda of corporations. Basically people are convinced to go along with what the wealthy want.

    The burn is that the wealthy can and will ignore the people regardless of their desires. The most recent riots and protests in France about raising the retirement age are a great example of this. The people protested violently and in the end the age was raised as the wealthy dictated.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying we can’t do anything. Simply put protesting isn’t the power people think it is and civilization isn’t going to revolt just because things get bad.


  • I have heard many variations to this point but I would like to point out a counter example. The great depression in the US that lasted for a decade. The average income level for families fell by 40%. People regularly starved to death and even by WWII almost 50% of men were turned away from recruitment because they were malnourished.

    Guess what? No revolution, no collapse just massive suffering.










  • Doomsider@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldJesus fucking Christ.
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    I get that, it is just not correct as the Nazi were emulating the US from the start.

    Not only did the US provide massive support, it also did a lot of political work. You see before the final solution Hitler just wanted the Jews out.

    He sent delegates to talk with other nations about taking them in. When the wealthy Nazi lovers of the US found out about this they assisted in helping revive anti-jewish sentiment around the world. They went around lobbying every nation including the US to not take the Jews in and it worked.

    This is what brought about the final solution, but before that the Nazi had a problem with tracking Jews. Que IBM who used their computing power at the time to generate a census system. Those numbers tattooed on Jewish prisoners arms came from IBM.

    If that was not enough the Nazi also had a problem with the logistics during the final solution. IBM once again came to the rescue figuring out how many trains of Jews could be executed without backing up their newly designed death camps.

    So the US played an intricate role in making the Holocaust feasible. One of the many genocides the US has been a part of.