• Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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    10 hours ago

    BlueMAGA, now as into conspiracy theories as their red bretheren, and for the same reasons.

    I’m sorry you’re worried that the Democrats strategy of doing nothing might not pay off, and that endorsing genocide still is such a loser issue. But that doesn’t mean the people refusing to share your party loyalty over any common sense are part of a conspiracy, foreign or domestic.

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      Let me say as a person who used to care about elections for self interest and humanitarian reasons but at this point kind of no longer gives much of a shit about elections other than being fueled by self interest and a new sense of deep and bitter spite:

      Voting for a party doesn’t equal party loyalty. Pointing out that one party is significantly worse than the one you think people should vote for isn’t party loyalty either. You can hate both parties and still vote for one and have good reasons to do so and encourage others to do the same with good reasons to do so.

      Either you are an imbecile and don’t know what words mean and shouldn’t be posting and embarrassing yourself or you are a scumbag liar pretending to not know what words mean. In either case everyone should ignore you.

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        To what end?

        Let’s frame it this way,

        A Mafia is in town (the ultra wealthy that can avoid laws and punishment)

        You can either vote for the mafioso that gives out SOME gifts to the community WHILE STILL CONSOLIDATING POWER AND TRANSFERRING WEALTH, or, they can send their enforcers out to make sure that they can FORCIBLY CONSOLIDATE POWER AND TRANSFER WEALTH.

        “Heads I win, Tails you lose”

        Hakeem Jeffries is secretly meeting with Kushner. That is the mark of a treasonous pedophile supporter and the unmasking of the controlled opposition party.

        Voting democrat will only continue the charade

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          In the end we’re all dead. Right now I’d like to live in a world not run by fascists. Simple as that. People lives, including my own and yours, would be better if fascists were not in power.

          Additionally, Hakeem Jefferies is not the only democrat. There are many democrats and some are worse or better. While essentially every republican is a monster or at best an unhinged lunatic.

          Jefferies also is, even as a empty husk of a politician, better than an ideological fascist. Because if socialists were in power, Hakeem Jefferies would be incentivized to work with them to maintain power, while in the current instance, he is incentivized to work with fascists.

          Jefferies is not an ideologue. He’s a power loyalist.

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            Right now I’d like to live in a world not run by fascists.

            The democrats are also fascists, so voting for them would get you nowhere

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        I’m glad you think that a meaningless Easter message is worth the lives of hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza, along with any electoral future for the left in the US.

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          You can just go out and say you don’t actually care about policies that affect people’s lives, it’s faster. Roe overturned, ICE on the streets, an incomprehensible amount of lifesaving aid to the most desperate people in the world cut, but “both sides same”.

          How are the Palestinians doing under Trump?

          Hint:

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            The palestinians are being genocided under Trump, just as they were under Biden. That doesn’t really matter to you though, you see genocide as a fringe issue that you can use as a cheap dunk. You somehow only started to pretend to care when your team wasn’t in charge.
            Biden deported more people than Trump, Kamala ran on being harsher on immigration than Trump, ICE was made permanent by Obama.
            USAID was a front for regime change, as well as an aid organisation. It is debatable whether it did more good or bad.
            Roe was overturned under Biden, and he was warned before it happened, yet did nothing. Roe could have been codified under Obama, yet it wasn’t. The Supreme Court is packed with right wing justices because the democrats allowed it to be + hubris. They wanted RGB to retire under a Hillary presidency, yet she was already decrepit as fuck beforehand.
            Somehow this is the lefts fault.

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              All the left-kickers can ever do is blame leftists for their own failures. Somehow it’s leftists’ fault that the Democrats sat on their hands and let Republicans shove justices through during the Trump admin, it’s the leftists’ fault that RBG didn’t retire, it’s the leftists’ fault that Democrats didn’t pass laws to make abortion legal nationwide. Somehow Republicans can do everything they want instantly and Democrats can do nothing, but God help you if you say they suck shit.

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            9 hours ago

            Roe overturned

            That happened under Biden. You know, when people did exactly that Vote Blue No Matter Who nonsense you’re advocating?

            ICE on the streets

            Again, the Democrats have supported ICE and continue to fund it.

            You’re literally providing examples of why you’re wrong.

            but “both sides same”.

            Only one who has said that is you. The point exactly is that the Democrats are similar enough to the GOP to where you should not support them as they are.

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              Who appointed the justices?

              Is ICE doing the same thing this year as they did 2 years ago?

              Are you this wildly misinformed, or are you jerking my chain here?

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                Who appointed the justices?

                Who let them be appointed? Who did fuck all about it? Who, hubristically, assumed victory and thus let yet another geriatric sit forever until she died? Who did nothing to get their justices in, when they could’ve? Who used NONE of the tools available to them to get rid of the justices that were there?

                Is ICE doing the same thing this year as they did 2 years ago?

                No. They’re doing the same, in a more blatant manner, which makes you notice and care.