• HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
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    Turns out the bloodshed also continues if we say/do nothing about it too, so we may as well say/do something about it anyway.

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    So the nazis are saying that if we just let them be nazis and hurt people, then no one will get hurt?

    They’re as brilliant as they are stupid.

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        For as much as they boast about their right to own guns and the greatest country in the world blah blah blah… They sure are the biggest fucking pussies.

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          They spent two centuries belligerently, loudly dining out on the myth that bringing authoritarians to their knees was the ONE THING they were BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE at doing- and now they’re pissing their pants about how they couldn’t POSSIBLY fight back because they might GET IN TROUBLE.

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        Palestine is a testing ground. If the MIC can get away with that, and things go south in the US, you are watching a preview of the violence turned inward.

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    Nice of him to give us a way to avoid his wrath. Unfortunately, he will not get the same in return. His corruption and violence are well-documented for history, and he will answer for his crimes.

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    Tell us more about the “violent left” that I’ve seen no evidence of, shithead.

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      Didn’t you see what happened to Horst Wessel Charlie Kirk? Those radical left transgenders froze his peaches!

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      By now it’s safe to assume both sides are pretty worked up and thirsting for some violence. That’s the whole point though. Get people hooked on a culture war and division so they don’t both see they’re getting fucked two ways to Sunday. The best way to win is to sell to both sides.

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        One side wants every one to have access to healthcare, human rights, and livable wages. The other side is literally killing you in the streets.

        Fuck off with this “but both sides” crap.

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          Do you believe the political party you prefer has made no errors or questionable decisions whatsoever aka all policies and actions have been infallibly correct?

          I’ve found personally that a small amount of humility in talking to people I highly disagree with politically transforms the discussion from a tribalistic us vs them into a mutual exploration of what is best for us both aka a mutual walk towards Truth.

          I’m not saying to switch sides, just that not treating people like mindless ghouls helps in bridging gaps and ending this ultimately disastrous division that has been festering not just locally but internationally.

          The absolute worst outcome for the most powerful is the vast majority who have the vast majority in common with one another working together.

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        This is some “enlightened centrist” nonsense. One side wants to engage in violence for the explicit purposes of exploiting and harming those they see as lesser, the other only wishes to engage in violence to defend themselves against said oppression.

        Fuck off with that “sell to both sides” fence sitting bullshit.

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          i mean you could read it that way, but i was getting more of a ‘this is not a left vs right problem it’s a top vs bottom problem’ vibe, and the top is working diligently to aim the libtards at the magats and vice versa so that neither will remember that everyone used to be able to afford groceries.

          also fuck tom homan. i hope he gets three flat tires and explosive diarrhea on his drive home.

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            Essentially yes, the goal is division and particularly division with zero possibility of resolution so that the division is eternal. The worst outcome is people who have the most in common put down their differences and work together. Instead one needs to get people fighting one another over increasingly minute details. It’s best when it’s worked into an almost religious state of infallibility on both sides. We are the good guys and they are Satan incarnate and the only way forward or cure is their complete and utter removal. I mean that’s what I would do if I was manipulating the masses and never wanted them to wake up from the spell we’ve cast on them.

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          It’s interesting, if one sits down and listens to the other side they are saying the same. It’s very ingenious actually. I believe the goal is to work two groups into an incurable division aka you want both sides to know they are the good guys and know the other side are essentially the spawn of Satan. The absolute worst case scenario would be these two sides putting down their differences and working together. That’s why it’s at a state of religious infallibility, you can’t have anyone on either side questioning it less they be labeled something even worse than the enemy, some lukewarm traitor to both sides.

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            you know if you listen to flat earthers they say they are the ones with proof and the round earth is fake and dumb

            perhaps it is your job to determine truth accurately using evidence and not just go “a disagreement, how fascinating”

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              For sure. Both sides have some self discovery to do unless one truly believes 100% of policies and actions taken by their chosen political party are unquestionably correct. There’s a lot of common ground to be found between people if they were to relax and not go full bore tribalism with politics. Unfortunately people really like tribalism and owning or dunking on whoever their opposition is. That is people usually prefer being right to such a degree they are willing to disregard the wellbeing of everyone for it. Obviously you see this behavior in your opposition, but maybe it’s a little harder to see in the tribes you identify with.

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        One side has always thirsted for violence since that’s how they got everything they have, and the other side it’s starting to understand you can’t reason with inhumane people.

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          Get people hooked on a culture war and they’ll quickly forget there’s a class war nearly everyone is losing.

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              Yeah, it’s ingenious. Both sides think they are the moral one. It’s the best way to keep people distracted from what the main players are doing. It’s an eternal conflict where both sides are infallible to themselves. Once constructed it’s naturally self perpetuating.

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            lol culture war. Concentration camps and forced disappearances are not the same fight as boobs on video game characters.

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              Pretty much. Who should use which toilet isn’t as vital as issues like citizens united and the patriot act or other large scale surveillance and corruption.

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      I love how people are acting like fascism doesn’t go down the exact same way every time. We know how this goes, it’s never deviated before and it won’t now.

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    so, wheres the 2nd amendment idiots, this is what it was for yeah ? an oppressive government ?

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      Do notice the brown shirts are getting their way for now. They think they are winning biggly.

      The long knives will come later and against small groups in isolation.

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      do you seriously expect anyone who might be plotting to take up arms against the US government to talk about it publicly??

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        I would expect some media coverage of anything like that actually happening.