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So step one is you talk about how you shouldn’t complain about having to eat the elephant and nothing can change and that people shouldn’t complain. Then you force feed people shit while giving the elephant a gun.
Whining and shaming over people being unhappy with the bullshit response the Democrats have in response to the kleptomaniac fascists running the country isn’t helpful.
People should be fucking pissed and they should be doing the work to help their communities. Food not bombs, getting involved locally. Voting for anyone that is for ranked choice voting.
What they don’t need to do is constantly wag their finger about how you have to vote blue no matter who after the blue just lost the easiest fuckig election in history
Complain all you want, just keep nibbling! Two small steps forward is better than a giant leap back, even if you prefer a leap forward.
I don’t prefer a leap forward, the planet fucking requires one. It is melting lol
And the Democrats are like a pause in the walk forward and rarely an actual step. They just put a nicer face on their horrors and usually do better for the imperial core
I’m not an accelerationist but trump has really got a lot of people to wake up to the fact that it truly is socialism or barbarism right now.
How is that not objectively better than a leap backwards?
Which is great if you’re not one of the victims of the barbarism I guess. Personally, I don’t have the stomach to sacrifice others for political gain.
Unless those others are brown kids in the third world, Black men in prison, or undocumented, amirite?
Bcs if you’re still seriously saying that voting for Kamala Harris was objectively better than abstaining or voting third party then you absolutely were willing to throw those people under the bus for political gain.
Once again, the people who are going to suffer either way do not affect my choice. But this administration has been objectively worse for the undocumented, so I’m not sure what your point is. Abstaining and voting third party helped this anti-immigrant administration win.
It objectively was. Neither abstaining nor voting third party helped those people, and now more of them are suffering than would have under the Harris administration. Based on the logic of abstainers/third party voters, they’re the ones throwing people under the bus to try to “send a message” to the DNC.
I guess if you’re one of the privileged managerial class in a major city, that’s true. (For the record that describes me, and my personal situation probably would be much better inse a Harris administration)
For most people the differences are a lot less stark.
Or are we pretending that ICE appeared from a misty portal on the morning of 1/20/25?
That Harris wasn’t beating the war drums with Iran and campaigning to Trump’s right on immigration?
That there was ever any chance a Dem administration was going to hold Trump and his enablers accountable for their actions?
Bcs if you’re judging Democrats by their rhetoric instead of by their record, then you’re not a serious adult worth having this conversation with.
If that’s you, you’re one of the least affected, not most.
No, but their current actions did, at least at this scale.
When did that happen?
I don’t care about their rhetoric, but if you can’t see the difference between their record and the Republicans, you’re not a serious adult worth having this conversation with. Both sides are obviously bad, but equally obviously not equally bad.
The people who couldn’t afford life under Biden aren’t doing any better or worse really under Trump. It’s the people who could happily ignore the crushing poverty that Neoliberal Austerity was inflicting on an ever growing portion of the population who are now suddenly experiencing the shock of the tactics of control developed in the colonies being used in the Imperial Core. Everyone who lectured BLM about how terrible it was to say “Defund the Police” suddenly is in the cross hairs and desperate to defund (the one group that threatens them from) the police.
No. The only thing new is that the same billionaire owned media that never made a peep about it is suddenly putting it in your face. Trunp is so desperate to get the number of daily ICE deportations up because he’s not on pace to even match Obama’s numbers and it’s really pissing him off
Throughout the entire 2024 campaign. Representative examples below.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/10/8/kamala-harris-says-iran-is-greatest-adversary-of-us
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/kamala-harris-calls-iran-destabilizing-force-middle-east-2024-10-01/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/harris-iran-is-greatest-us-adversary/2024/10/23/9a9de8c6-d066-44d3-b95c-ddbf5c13737b_video.html
Strike the word “can’t” and the sentence above becomes accurate. Both parties love war, hate working people, and use minorities as political footballs to keep the peasants from revolting. You just have a preference for which flavor of capitalist puppet you like to see on TV. And that’s fine but don’t go moralizing about your preference if you’re not willing to actually get into the weeds on their records. And the Democrats’ records are just as horrible as the GOPs, if you don’t consider “saying the slurs on TV instead of keeping them in the back rooms like Kennedy intended” to be a worse failing than Strike Busting, austerity policy, and massive giveaway from the public treasury to private interests.
They said as they bemoaned people not being willing to vote for a genocidal fascist (who probably wouldn’t increase the price of gas as much).
Seems like you’re very comfortable with sacrificing others for political nothing though.
A genocidal fascist was going to win either way. This one seemed more genocidal from the outset, and the last two years corroborates that.
It’s not about the people who would have suffered either way, I can’t presently do anything about that but I’m trying. It’s about all the extra people who are suffering now: immigrants in death camps, victims of slashed social programs, the dead Iranians on the other side of that expensive gas.
I can’t save Palestine right now. I lack the leverage. But I could’ve helped save many of the others, and you could’ve too. It works better together. Don’t get distracted by the horrors you can’t fix, focus on the ones where you can at least slow the bleeding
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Voting for the democrats is not a step forward. Actually engage with what people are saying you disingenuous asshole.