Windows:
Linux:
I will not ignore the cat pic, in fact I enjoyed it, tyvm.
Same. This is now a cat thread.
In many games it does, but I’m not sure this comparison is a good example of that, as it shows persistent CPU stutter on Linux. With those spikes, Windows would be the smoother experience even if the average frametimes are slightly better on Linux.
ignore cat pic
Does the cat use Arch, BTW?
Fun fact: cats use arch all the time, btw
How is there not an Arch-derived distro that uses a cat in the shape of the Arch logo for their logo?
I shan’t ignore the cat!
“Ignore the cat pic”
How???ITT: OP learns why reviewers take days to provide benchmarks for games. If you don’t come with receipts, it’s death by a thousand buts.
I once posted on /r/MacGaming how pleased I was that I could run Horizon Zero Dawn on my M2 Air using Crossover, and how it seemed (to me) to run better than on my massive, old, water-cooled PC with an Nvidia GTX1060. I wasn’t getting 120fps or anything, in fact, it was closer to 20fps at times. But I was running HZD on a fanless laptop, on an architecture on which it was never designed to run.
Foolishly, I was expecting a chorus of folks saying “yeah, cool, nice!”, but what I actually got were a bunch of folks demanding proof.
So I closed Reddit, because it wasn’t worth the arsehole.
Ignores the post, read the cat
I’m not exactly playing anything new but I’ve been playing Grounded (the first one) on Window for like 2 months. My computer was so hot it was warming up my entire room.
I switched to Linux due to other Microsoft issues and decided to give it another shot. Man, my computer doesn’t really get warm at all. Like yeah I can see the temp monitor change a little bit but not much. There’s no hot air pouring out of my PC. I’m not sweating sitting next to it.
I’ve made no changes to any game settings (other than using proton) or hardware changes. It’s an insane difference.
I love Vulkan so much. Having everything precompiled ahead of time is probably a big contributing factor on why your machine is running cooler. It’s just pulling from the shader cache instead of doing on the fly computation for shaders.
That makes sense. I’m still new to all this so I’m kinda learning as I go.
The long and short of it is that Vulkan and other modern graphics APIs are extremely explicit. As the game developer, you tell the GPU exactly what resources are being used, when they’re available, and how work is synchronized. Once you’ve built those command buffers, the driver mostly just submits them to the hardware “fire and forget” style basically.
Older APIs like OpenGL and Direct3D 11 were much higher level. You described what you wanted to draw, and the graphics driver figured out resource transitions, synchronization, and a lot of the scheduling behind the scenes. That made them easier to use but also added CPU overhead and made performance less predictable.
Thank you for taking the time to explain that. That’s really cool too learn.
Appreciate the cat image.
I will not ignore the cat.
Didn’t valve test this sort of thing over a decade ago and found Linux to easily get better performance?
Yes.
Kind of.
Its… why they spent that decade making Proton, and now basically have an OS based off of it.
The OS is based off of Arch.
I mean literally yes, but, it could not exist in any meaningful way without Proton.
Thats why I say its really built around Proton, they started with Proton and then said ‘how do we make an OS that will work with/around this’ and landed on Arch.
The whole point of it is: Be a functional, efficient, fast, Linux OS that primarily plays video games.
Thats impossible without Proton.
Agreed! 🎯
I will ignore everything but the cat. I demand more pics of the cat.
:3
It’s laughable because all Linux gamers have is amateur benchmarks that don’t account for 1% lows, shader cache stutters, selective picking, and no frame-by-frame analysis. There’s no mention of input lag, frame timing issues, or whether the game can even be completed on Linux (some are broke for frame timing issues).
Pushing this kind of nonsense is assholey to people that might be willing to risk damaging hardware to run Linux.
They literally have the frame time graph in the screenshot? And yea the timing looks dramatically worse on Linux in this case lol.
“Damaging hardware” are you from the past or something?
Edit: also extra hilarious that I already had you tagged as “corporate simp” from previous corporate simping you have done.
There are recent cases. Do you not use search? Are LiGNUxers allergic to that as well as AI?
Damaging hardware, lmao
ffs do you LiGNUxers actually research anything other than what distro will solve your current problem?
You’re just displaying your inferiority complex here.
What hardware damage are you even talking about? That’s not actually a thing.
You openly and brazenly lie. -Interesting! Is that very quick upvote also vote manipulation?
Posting your own threads that have been downvoted (rightfully) to hell isn’t the win you thought it was…
The first thread also only has deleted comments. Suspicious
Read the rules and understand we’re not about wasting time arguing there with idiots. If they actually made a point; it would get addressed.
But what’s your excuse here? -Please tell!
I am just saying that the fact all comments were deleted is supicious.
But not having any real rebuttals here isn’t. Hypocrisy. Imagine sparing non-Linux fans from all the dishonest Linux propaganda.
You didn’t contest a single entry in it. All you’re doing is effectively down-voting which doesn’t make you right or wrong. If you had ANY integrity; you could address what’s brought up in the posts as the information isn’t exclusive there (it’s simply compiled there).
If you’d like, I can link to a Reddit sub where it’s upvoted!
Anyway, you’re showing you lack integrity and discernment. As well as highlighting the obvious bias on this site because it appeals to LiGNUxers.
Dude, you appear to have an unhealthy obsession. You may want to consider talking to a professional about it.
Linking your own list of hypotheticals is not any kind of proof of anything.
That isn’t really a comeback, but a good example of why advocates aren’t allowed there.
-Thanks for providing a perfect example.
I’m not making a comeback or trying to debate you at all. I’m honestly pointing out that the level of time and anger you appear to be spending on something you are free to just not use, is extremely unhealthy.
FFS shit or get off the pot.
You aren’t getting, are you? I’m not even in the bathroom.
This happens on windows too.
Not the same thing.
Look at me cite myself from threads in the community I moderate where I’ve banned anyone providing pushback
You mean look at yourself not proving me wrong on a single thing.
You’re literally quoting yourself, you clown
It’s a compilation knuckle dragging mouth breather.
Compilations with no actual sources given. They’re literally just you prattling on, you fucking loon.
Oh, you don’t have internet at your finger tips to confirm yourself in seconds? I feel sorry for you, but gonna block you since you’re still working on your inferiority complex. (putting others down to make yourself feel better)
Spotted the Microsoft sales person! Do I win something?
Recognition from the other 20% vocal minority of conspiracy theorists.