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alessandro@lemmy.ca to PC Gaming@lemmy.caEnglish · 3 days ago

Both Microsoft and Sony say they're under no obligation to pass tariff refunds on to customers

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Both Microsoft and Sony say they're under no obligation to pass tariff refunds on to customers

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Microsoft and Sony argue no obligation to pass on tariff refunds, file to dismiss consumer lawsuits
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  • 🇾 🇪 🇿 🇿 🇪 🇾@lemmy.ca
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    Haha stupid consumer.

  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    This entire scheme was a combination of market manipulation along with a universal price hike. A lot of very rich people got a lot richer. They got to engage in insider trading while massively increasing prices while pretending they had no choice.

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    MS has other more concerning things they will pass on to.

  • Caveman@lemmy.world
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    And that’s a surprise to… absolutely no one

    • heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
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      I mean, unless they were expecting a “tarriff check.” I knew it wouldn’t show because grifters and liars are seldom honest.

  • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    We over charged you and you can suck it.

    • heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
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      Eloquently put.

  • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
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    And they’re not.

    And you’re not obligated to buy their products

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      Is piracy a thing on modern consoles?

      • gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        99% of the games worth playing on them come out on PC, so yes.

      • iamthetot@piefed.ca
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        Depends on your firmware and such. It often takes time, but they’ll all be jailbroken eventually.

        • Auli@lemmy.ca
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          Not even true

          • village604@adultswim.fan
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            What previous gen console hasn’t been?

          • village604@adultswim.fan
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            deleted by creator

      • BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca
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        Use emulation. Can’t play the latest, but there’s no shortage

        • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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          I figured. DS had great piracy, which is where my burgeoning hope was pulled from.

          • steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
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            Switch has great support too. Older models could be modded without requiring hardware modification the later ones like the oled did.

      • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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        Look into the bounty on a PS5 firmware crack.

        • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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          15k seems like a nice sum. I’m guessing it’s pretty locked down if a few months’ pay hasn’t led to anything

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            Or it could be an attempt to drive the sum up since Sony pay for bugs found. That said, these things take time to find too.

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      And I don’t. Those 800 games that I haven’t touched aren’t going to play themselves.

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      Neither one sussists on consumer products lol

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    People are butthurt about this but don’t have the willpower to not buy or use their products.

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      Or to vote for someone who has more than one word in their vocabulary: tariffs

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        Beautiful

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      Sucks but it’s true. I’ve been trying to de-microsoft my household for over a year now. My partner won’t switch away from Windows, despite how fucking bad 11 is, and we’re still paying for office 365, even though I haven’t used MS office on a non-company computer for about 15 years at this point.

      I haven’t had anything sony in decades. Everything I got from them was overpriced trash that broke under very meager circumstances.

      Next on my chopping block is Google. Once the my phone is paid off, I’m switching to Graphene. Currently trying out open street maps, and trying to spin up my own email server so I can ditch my Gmail account.

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    If the government wanted the people to have it they could have stipulated that or, better yet, given it directly to the people. You need a complicit government for ‘privatized profit; socialized loses’

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    Just to highlight the good actors too:

    For one thing, Arctic announced a price rollback after securing its refund, saying this will continue until “every single dollar Arctic received […] has been paid back to our customers.”

    Panic, maker of the Playdate handheld, has taken a bolder stance, offering refunds to those who bought its console and were charged extra for its tariffs. Company co-founder Cabel Sasser said last month, “It’s just not our money to keep.”

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      Playdate handheld

      That thing is so hilariously overpriced in the first place, that a few bucks don’t make any difference neither to the seller, nor the consumer.

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        Nice of them regardless, but I totally agree. The playdate is a neat toy but it’s wild how successful they are considering it costs $230 and most games on it are paid. You could buy a similarly neat retro handheld for only $50!

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          It’s a trait of a certain market of quirky and unique high-quality devices. E.g. the Dirtywave M8 music tracker was sold at 650$. But they also provide the software freely, and one can diy it on a Raspberry Pi.

          Teenage Engineering, who designed Playdate, have most of their products rather ridiculously priced. E.g. the portable synth/sampler OP-1 costs 2000€.

          TBF I have a Chinese handheld for emulators, and discovered online that the screws on it are positioned such that the heads can pierce the battery when it swells. This was after the battery completely died in a year of disuse, so I was looking up replacements.

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    TBF, I’m not getting one from Linux, either.

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      You’re not? I got the same amount I spent back.

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        Mine was a 200% return! Interest was included!

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        Same here!

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    No one could have possibly anticipated this

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      *no one

      • db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Fix ed, thx

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          *fix ed

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            .

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    I really hate that companies being hostile to their customers has become normalised such that it’s really expected.

    There’s very clearly a right and scrupulous thing to do. Not having an obligation to do that is not an excuse not to.

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      Companies always has been hostile when they are so big that they are only fathomable as market entity. Privatise gains, socialise losses.

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        I disagree.

        Yes companies have privatised profits and socialised losses since forever, thats not what I’m talking about.

        Its not that long ago that you could talk to an actual person in customer service who at least had a supervisor with the authority to do provide an appropriate resolution.

        Now the standard mode of operation is to simply close ranks, and make a PR statement like this… “we’re not going to do that simply because you can’t make us”.

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      The reality is that it was all just a way to give a stimulus to companies without saying directly

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        That’s obvious, and it’s not what I’m talking about.

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    Guess I’ll continue pirating their shit.

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    why?

    because fuck you. that’s why.

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    Ha ha ha ha. It was a fucking griffffttttt!!!

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      Trump knows no other way. He milked a casino dry ffs.

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        at least four of them

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