California is currently one of only three states in the country — alongside Mississippi and New Mexico — that sets no minimum age at all for marriage, allowing a child of any age to be legally wed as long as a parent or guardian signs off. A bill designed to close that loophole for good just cleared a major hurdle in Sacramento, passing the state Senate on a unanimous 38-0 vote this past Wednesday.

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      Women, and girls, are objects to these people. Some try to dress it up by treating a woman like a prized horse in Kentucky, maybe even chandeliers in her barn, but that’s as far as it goes.

      We’re not people, and sometimes don’t get to be kids, with this subset of humanity.

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      It’s not just fundie Christians, unfortunately. Way too many cultures do this, religious or otherwise.

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      I’ll tell you this: hate is hate. You can flavor it any way you want. Everybody hates someone. Ukrainians hate Russians, Zionists hate Palestinians, and so on.

      You can call the hate righteous or predatory. You can lynch a Black man because you’re white, or you can support putting a rapist and murderer in the gas chamber because of what he did. However you justify it, hate is still hate.

      But as soon as you say something as dumb as this followed by the bandwagon, you’re no different from the people you’re condemning. You’re just as pitiful as the pedophile, just as contemptuous as the racist, and just as ignorant as the person you’re calling an idiot.

      So don’t go thinking you’re somehow high and mighty simply because you believe your hate is purer than everyone else’s.

      Disclaimer: I do not support sexual crimes or abuse of any kind, nor do I support MAGA, Republican extremism, or religious fundamentalism.

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          Ya that’s not what you’re mad at.

          You’re making an all-encompassing declarative statement insinuating that fundamentalist Christians are marrying off their children to grown pedophiles. That is a hateful generalization supported by literally no actual facts. You’re doing the exact same thing as someone claiming that drag queens, as a group, are sexualizing children.

          And before you put your thumbs to the screen, yes, I realize there have been isolated incidents of this happening. Crimes happen across the board, and they deserve to be investigated and punished by the law. That’s not the issue here. The issue is that you’re using an isolated subject to justify what is ultimately a hateful generalization about a particular group of people. That’s prejudice and hateful, regardless of which group you’re directing it toward.

          And your link is totally irrelevant in this case. It is obvious that you did not catch on to what I was saying.

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            The problem is that it is ALWAYS YOU PEOPLE.

            Every great aspect of western civilization had been people FLEEING religious persecution, from mostly abrahamic religions LIKE YOURS.

            Whenever people want people to be equal, abrahamic religions are there to support child rape and subjugating women.

            Whenever people want to advance medicine and science, abrahamic religions are there to burn whoever they deem a “heretic”.

            Whenever people want to be happy with who they are and marry who they want, abrahamic religions are there to get in the way of that as well.

            Everything we have that is good for everyone, is in SPITE of your primitive and hateful religion.

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              Like mine? I’m a human secularist and antitheist. I stand opposed to all organized religion.

              My God, I haven’t seen a comment this full of itself and spoken this far out of someone’s ass in a long time. You’ve made massive assumptions that I specifically disclaimed against in my original comment. I don’t support Christian fundamentalism; I would actually protest against it. What I don’t do is blindly hate it like you and apparently the person I was responding to.

              Did you actually read what I wrote, or did you already have something you wanted to say regardless of whether it was true? You know, the exact same problem you’re accusing others of having while doing it yourself.

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                It’s not “blind hate” when I specifically listed the reasons throughout history.

                Your self-righteous, and wannabe victimization is so played out that no one will tolerate this bullshit anymore.

                For you to be correct, Christians would have to either be too stupid to think about what they support, or so evil that they always support oppressing people. Which is it?

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            Okay okay, message received. I’ll just stick to being upset at fundamentalist Christians for indoctrinating children, inhibiting their ability to develop critical thinking skills, sowing hatred and fear, and for holding disproportionate power in politics that drags back science and cultural progress for everyone.

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              My point is that you can’t use the same kind of hate to prop up your own narrative while condemning someone else’s. Saying that fundamentalist Christians are giving their children in marriage to pedophiles is an untrue, sweeping statement.

              And that’s not even what he was saying. You’re making up a position for him to support your own argument, much like the people you apparently criticize for doing the exact same thing you’re doing right now.

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                I’m not the OP, I’m not the one talking about child-marriage. Thus why I’m basing my distaste for fundies on the things I said above.

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                  And yet your rhetoric, argument, and general attitude is identical to op.

                  I know that you’re not op.

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            This is lemmy and you’re voice of reason. Expect to be down voted into oblivion for thought crime

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              O for sure. But sometimes people need push back. One day someone will read this and see that not everyone will accept things like this at face value. So I know I’ll be downvoted to hell.

              But as they say in the business there’s no such thing as bad publicity.