People ask me why I don’t buy from anyone associated with the far-right anymore. “Isn’t it difficult? Do you think it really helps? Why do you do it?”
“Cause I might shit my pants” is not an answer I expected to be able to give
EDIT: Actually, I should give that answer every time.
“Why don’t you get a Tesla?” Might shit my pants
“Why ditch Microsoft for Linux?” Might shit my pants
“Are you really cancelling your Amazon?” Shiiiit my paaaaants
How do you avoid it? Is there an easy list? I want the same for private equity.
I can get behind that.
Not RIGHT behind, of course. Out of splash range.
Thanks, I needed a good chuckle!
First we didn’t buy their lettuce because it was contaminated with parasites. Then we stopped buying their lettuce because they’re f’ing MAGA Republicans.
Why would you write contaminated with parasites twice?
MASA make America shit again.
They are literally doing that right now and making America worse again
Remember that Earthbound Organics is also them unfortunately. Carried at Costco
Looks like they did it for shits and giggles. After all magats enjoy the suffering of others.
Seems heavily weighted towards shits over giggles from what I can tell
All shits, no giggles. >:(
They giggle like their gay lover in private.
Gotta love all the “just grow your own!” comments and the lack of awareness about how analogous it is to “just pull yourself up by your bootstraps!”
Or maybe not a lack of awareness, who knows what trolls, bots and influences lurk on lemmy, pushing conservative victim blame. Worked on reddit for plastic straws and personal carbon footprints.
I’m growing my own.
But I have space for a large vegetable garden. Because I’m a rural weirdo. Not everyone has that space but more importantly, gardens take work, and time, and yes, money. Someone who is working two jobs to keep an apartment isn’t going to have time to take care of a garden, even if they wanted to. We were supposed to have a society that allowed for people to do jobs other than agriculture.
I propose a federal agency that is tasked with inspecting drugs and food in the US to make sure they’re safe. Wouldn’t that be cool.
Best I can do is a tapeworm masquerading as a human. Take it or leave it.
My parents keep a large garden. Used to be my grandparents’, who relied on it for half their food.
It’s a lot of work. It’s worth it where I am cause vegetables at the supermarket are often so full of pesticides they taste like gasoline. It’s literally a problem money can’t solve. But man is it a lot of work… I don’t know what will happen when they get too old to do it anymore. I’m not sure I can do it.
Lettuce actually grows pretty easily.
Now you aren’t going to trivially have enough to be a staple of your diet or anything, but if lettuce at the store is a problem, you could at least have a few leaves to add some to a few dishes while the issue is worked in the supply chain.
My kid just has a single lettuce plant and pulls a few leaves off to eat with something once in a while. It doesn’t need much active care or anything.
At one point my kid had an indoor hydroponic garden going that offered up a bit more vegetation to eat, but keeping that thing maintained was a hassle.
Yeah, turns out growing crops is hard
Its not that its hard, but it takes land and time, which is a privilege. Growing food is actually incredibly easy. But not everyone can access land, and you still need 30-60 days for lettuce to grow to maturity. If I need lettuce today, how does putting seeds in the ground help for the next month.
Growing food is incredibly easy
By comrade in crisis, I grew up with a family and extended family putting blood sweat and tears into food gardens every summer my whole life. They managed to grow enough to supplement everyone’s diets most years. But they still needed groceries. And some years things went to shit when weather or pests or something else went wrong. And it was never, ever easy. So, I’m sorry. I call bullshit.
Depends on the goal.
Being totally independent is hard. Having a few strategic plants isn’t that bad.
No, you aren’t going to live off your casual garden, but you can have a bit of lettuce or a few other easy leafy vegetables around. You can’t go all in on lots of salads, but you can at least have a lettuce leaf for a sandwich if you can’t get it from the store.
It’s not a bad situation for things like a sandwich topping or garnish here and there.
A few pots on a patio occasionally watered can be pretty solid. Yes you still need the grocery store, but maybe you can skip lettuce from the grocery store and still have it for light usage.
All it took was a single record-heat day to wipe out my coworkers flowers.
My parents installed nets to guard their garden for hail a couple years ago after a bad storm
I don’t think humans are supposed to eat flowers.
Technically, you can eat some flowers. Like figs and squash flowers.
Nonetheless, growing flowers works off the same principle as growing other plants. Proper conditions are needed for success.
Speak for yourself, pal
I will eat this rose and love it!
No, I won’t remove the thorns!
No, YOUR MOUTH is bleeding!
Depend, there is the easy way, then there is the hard way. Ever pick up an instrument and try to play it for the first time? Same with growing food.
I grow food, provided you have land and time, its so fucking easy. You put compost down, add seeds, add mulch, water deeply when the ground dries out. I use a hose timer so I can turn it on and walk away. None of this is rocket science, people way over think their gardens, plants are resilient.
Well I guess I’m just a complete idiot then.
I don’t think you’re an idiot i think you’re likely distracted. The world is trying to sell you something. Buy this amendment, buy this tool, buy my guide, use this 1 neat trick, use my hack no one has thought of. People have been planting food for at least 10000 years. When people thought the sun was literally god and knew nothing of soil microbiology or npk. Stop over thinking it and stick to the basics. After addressing the basics search for simple solutions to problems that come your way. Most plants grow themselves, they are biologically adapted to survival.
Start by growing easy things that need no maintenance and are native to your area or grow in your climate. If you’re in a northern climate you can literally stick raspberry plants and/or wild or ever bearing strawberries in the ground and 2-3 years later you will have a full berry patch with 0 effort, they spread and grow themselves. Throw food bearing bushes and trees in the ground and water and feed them here and there the first season and they will pay dividends for the next 20-30 years. Plant 3 chive plants and you will never need to buy them in spring/summer again. They come back every year without any maintenance. There are so many things you can just plant and let exist, start there.
So happy for you that you have the things that make that easy. Good climate, no pests or deer or rabbits or crows, or robins or other birds, considerate neighbours, access to water for irrigation all year long, and apparently no issues with weeds eh? And lots of access to cheap, safe compost too huh? Oh and the tools (and storage!) to spread compost, aerate soil, weed (wait you dont get weeds!), and manage things like planter beds or poles or netting or trellises or tomatoes cages? And you grow enough that you meaningfully cut down on groceries huh? What a lucky duck.
Certainly some of the things you listed can present challenges, but I really think our society mythologises planting and farming and that was really my point, which I made poorly because I was being too flippant.
We act like producing food is an 80 hour a week job for only the smartest green thumbs when it doesn’t even take a fraction of that time and takes an accessible amount of skill.
Provided you’re privileged enough to have access to 1/4 - 1/2 acre of sunny land, you could grow a decent portion of your food for under 10 hrs a week. I know people who do.
Certainly expanding to that size takes some time prepping new beds, but maintaining existing beds and growing food in them is really not that much work. I maintain about 1500 sq/ft of food garden right now and outside of 5-15 hours of early spring prep I spend 1-2 hours a week in the garden through most of the actual growing season, and that’s probably an over estimation. Each season I expand a manageable amount, and that’s really the most time consuming because I am hand terracing a hill, 1 row each year. Certainly there is work, but acting like its super hard is just silly. I spend most of my time doing anything but gardening.
Honestly, maybe you’re serious. And maybe you’re a nice person and you just don’t get how what you’re saying comes off. But you just put “hand terracing a hill” in the same paragraph where you then said that acting like gardening is hard is silly.
Maybe for the person who has the knowledge, skills, abilities, and resources to successfully hand terrace a hill it isn’t that hard? I’m sure LeBron James doesnt find layups that hard either.
Regardless of how you meant it, the comment comes off with strong Lucille Bluth vibes.
LOL, you make gardening seem like work when it is more of a lifestyle. I have a dog, gun flash tape and fence for critters, carry a few cans of water when it doesn’t rain, and rarely weed much - never till or plow. My main garden equipment is a hoe, a round point shovel and a five-tine fork for spreading mulch the old discarded hay bales make great feertilized as they decompose into the sand. I still buy produce from the store in off-season but sell and give away a lot of produce. You should really read books by Ruth Stout and Masanobu Fukuoka.
My first year, I planted zuchini and it grew like crazy. Unfortunately so did the beetles that ate it. Every morning I went out to water it, and they’d scatter. I didn’t want to use pesticide on my food, so I waged a war spraying the hose with one hand and crushing them with the other. I have a bad back, so that was fun. The next year I added cantaloupe, ready for the same song and dance. Between the bugs and the heat, I managed to harvest one single zuchini before they ate what hadn’t shriveled up under the sun. The year after that, I tried onions. They overtook the flower bed and the root system is weedlike. I think I put too many, too close together. This year I’ve been in too much pain and its been too hot, so I haven’t even tried. That was all at my parents place. My apartment doesn’t have much patio space, so it gets partial sun. I’ve tried to raise tomatoes, carrots, zuchini and anything that sprouts from my compost. Everything starts out ok but by a month the sun has shifted and doesn’t hit the space the same the rest of the summer.
I understand if I had better land, more time, more sun, and no bugs maybe it would be easy. But you gotta be kidding me.
I’ve had issues with bugs which has mostly been solved by interplanting everything. Every tomato, pepper, and basil plant is in different parts of the garden with marigolds and other companion plants around. Bugs like monocrops, they tend to have lower pressure when you mix things up. Bugs still get a few things, but they are a lot less focused than when I grew things in large monocrop beds. The bad back makes it hard though, planting can be hard on your back.
It sounds like you have quite a lot of expertise most people don’t have, which is probably why you find growing food relatively easy and many don’t. It’s not just needing the weekly time to plant and maintain the land, or needing to have good land in the first place, that stops people, it’s also not having time to build up that expertise.
Someone please tell me this isn’t just a simple case of this administration telling the FDA to ignore and reverse their accurate findings because the company being impacted is a big MAGA doner?
Sad, I could have not known they were MAGA and kept buying their salads for years. Ah well. Sayonara, taylor salad!
Any recommendations for decent-company salads?
Go to your local farmers market and buy lettuce from and support local farmers
Sorry in advance for the rant, but it’s a bit of a pet peeve of mine when someone asks a question and gets an answer for a completely different question. They specifically asked for salads made by decent companies and you’ve told them to go and buy the ingredients at a market. They basically asked what wattage of lightbulb would be best for their lamp and you’ve recommended a great candlemaker.
I get that in a perfect world we’d all only eat locally-grown produce from small farms and suppliers or grow our own food, but we don’t all have that luxury. Because of economic and social pressures, we often have to make choices we wouldn’t like to make.
Maybe this person doesn’t have the time and energy to travel to a market just to buy lettuce or to make their own salad; maybe that’s cost-prohibitive for them; maybe they live in a food desert; maybe the local grocer is 5 minutes away while their nearest market is an hour’s drive; or maybe they’re looking for a type of lettuce that isn’t grown locally so that they can make dishes that are culturally appropriate for them.
Yeah, this unfortunately. I also recommend buying lettuce from Costco
Someone else in the thread said that Earthbound organics, Costco’s brand, is also Taylor farms (note I didn’t verify their statement). Costco does seem to hold their produce to a higher standard than everyone else and don’t seem to be part of this shitty situation, but that’s not helping if your goal is to boycott.
We have a Gotham Greens grow house in my city, and I know they have operations in several areas. They only sell in markets they grow in, so the produce never has to travel far. I’m sure there are similar operations scattered across the country. But if you can, farmers markets are where it’s at.
We have Revol Greens here in Minnesota that’s greenhouse grown. Looks like they also operate in Texas.
Maybe start growing your own?
Food production is basically just a handful of monopolies at this point, your area is probably either supplied by Taylor or not
Maybe start growing your own
I did. It’s actually not that easy. They’re turning into broccoli. Have a look at this abysmal failure will ya?
I wouldn’t call that a failure… You seem like you’re one tweak away from having lots of nice crisp lettuce
Maybe a bit more light? You can get led grow lights pretty cheaply if you shop around, you could try it on a couple plants to supplement the indirect light without raising the temperature much and test if it works
Thank you, that make me feel much better.
Yeah possibly, my concern was winter frost
You gotta pick the leaves regularly, that doesn’t look like the kind of lettuce you get a whole head of at once
If that’s what i think it is, you get a whole head, its still too early. They start out growing every which way and later a head forms in the middle.
The one in the bottom right looks like it’s saying “feed me!”
Yeah it’s a complete write off
I feel terrible. I have failed as a farmer
Everyone fails at farming. Some keep at it until they stop falling at it. Or move to a different crop.
Yeah I’m not satisfied though, because lettuce is commonly eaten here. I want to grow crops that we eat. Some of the mixed lettuces down the far end have gone into a couple of salads so they have been ok but they went berserk too
So I guess it’s option one you gave, have another go
Which is why it’s not going to solve the problem of a food crisis right now. Farming is a skill that takes practice.
Look, I’ll say this much, it’s been fun giving it a go. My lettuces are shit but other things have worked and to be fair I’ve been pretty lazy.
Wasn’t talking about the latest distraction. Was talking about lettuce.
Farming takes zero skill. The first step to getting good at farming requires basic reading skills.
I didn’t mean to insult your skills as a farmer, it was a reference to Little Shop of Horrors where the plant acquires a taste for human blood.
It appears you have big, leafy plants. That’s a success, even if you don’t like how they look yet.
Yeah nah you’re good, i did miss the reference but now you raise it, yeah.
Cheers, yeah the tomatoes are booming since I repotted those. I’m in a bit of a war with boring insects in my pumpkins but a couple of those are coming through too.
But it’s back to the drawing board with the leaf veges. They might have to be done in a raised bed
I appreciate the idea and agree that would be a good thing. But I need to express that the chances of that ever happening at this point are really quite low.
I can relate. I inherited 3 raised boxes this year, put them together, and they’re still waiting to be set out and filled. Maybe next year me will finish what this year me started.
I will say, setting up a small basic herb garden and lettuce is super easy, low maintenance, and forgiving as far as growing plants goes.
Not too late to start fall lettuce or even kale. You need to find out what variety grows well in your area though.
I had lettuce the other day and I also happen to be having diarrhea. Does anyone know if this is a dangerous condition?
I’m getting my medical advice from lemmy because I live in the US and can’t afford healthcare…
Most people handle the infection easily. Its dangerous to the immunodeficient, infants and the elderly.
The main risk is from dehydration. So the first recommended treatment is over-the-counter anti-diarrheal medications and drinking lots of fluids.
If it lasts for more than a week or you suffer from symptoms of dehydration (clammy skin, dizziness, not peeing etc) you’ll need to seek urgent medical care. Someplace that can give you an IV.
Not a medical DR, I just play one occasionally for shits and giggles. So this could be correct or a bunch of bullshit.
Also not a Dr. Be sure to drink some tea, soup or something with electrolytes occasionally because you will be blasting those out as well
for shits
Your time has come
The giggles will get you through though.
Just use webmd and chatgpt like the rest of us, snowflake!
Tap for spoiler
Bold business plan to try to give your customers more diarrhea. I’d love to have listened in on that marketing meeting.
Cruelty is the point, especially giving everyone diarrhoea.
