Seeing the beginning of his announcement, it did not seem like it was going to be a drop out one but him doubling down on running
Graham Platner has a Blackwater problem | Opinion
The Senate candidate’s previous association with the private military contractor that committed various war crimes in Iraq cannot be overlooked.
Posted November 28, 2025
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But the end of Platner’s campaign was a massive relief to Democrats who saw their tough road to retake control of the Senate crumbling if he continued on against Collins in one of the most critical races on the map.
Nothing that’s been done by anyone in Maine in the last week has given this Democrat any relief. I was 1000 times more optimistic with the Kamala switch than this train wreck.
This article is very establishment-biased and presents things like the adults are back in charge and any problems are because Platner was being antagonistic to the party leaders rather than the leaders themselves lobbing accusations through the press and putting personal desires over party unity. The accusations that took him down may not be the conspiracy, but the Maine Democratic party leadership is definitely conspiring to maximize their personal power over what’s good for the state and party.
They built a nominating process where insiders get to pick all the voters while showing zero interest in engaging the campaign that won an overwhelming primary victory. He was right not to trust them!
This is why Democrats lose and they’re going to keep losing.
Dig deeper into it, this doesn’t seem like a hit job.
I respect that suggestion. I’m wondering how any guy grows out of being a dick and gets a chance to demonstrate growth in the party of Democrats.
Genuine remorse and honest self reflection, which would inevitably lead to “As someone who has committed rape it is irresponsible for me to ever ask anyone to vote for me to have political power ever again, but there are other ways for me to participate in and give back to my community that don’t involve me having power over someone else. Perhaps I will go phone bank for a candidate that shares my values or volunteer to pick up trash in my local park.”
“I’m really truly sorry, now can we please move on without actually changing anything” doesn’t work.
Is there any evidence whatsoever that Platner had grown beyond this incident which was pretty recent anyway?
I don’t think so, but the victim thought he was blackout drunk, so the only reliable choice available to his unimpaired mind would be never to get that drunk again. But he’d made posts (in 2013) about how no one should drink so much they regret their choices, so if it were as simple as thinking responsible people shouldn’t drink to that point it never would have happened.
You don’t rape someone because you got too drunk. That only happens if you think rape is OK but you’ve been holding yourself back from it. Most of us have been drunk plenty of times without hurting anyone. So I don’t find that argument too convincing.
Plus I think this was after 2013 so maybe he should have taken his own advice and this wouldn’t have happened. If you know you lose control when drunk then ultimately I think you do have a responsibility to stop doing it.
By definition, if you’re holding yourself back from doing something you don’t think it’s ok. It doesn’t change that you’re responsible for harm you cause by putting yourself in a position where your sober mind is no longer holding yourself back, but following this logic leads to things like saying drunk women can consent because they’re just holding their true selves back when sober.
I disagree. You may also be afraid of the consequences. I don’t think a normal person with a healthy concept of consent is going to rape someone no matter how drunk they are. It’s people who are close to doing that already that are going to be pushed over the edge by a lack of inhibitions.
As far as drunken consent it’s obviously a bit hazy but I personally think the idea that any amount of alcohol negates consent is a bit silly. When we’re talking about alcohol negating consent we’re talking about people who are impaired to the extent that they either don’t know what’s going on or can’t clearly express their preferences. If you are physically and mentally capable of rape you are obviously not this impaired. In fact I think the muddying of the waters that some people have done here is a bit dangerous as it gives cover for people to behave badly when drunk and claim that they’re no responsible for their actions, which again, I think is nonsense.
You certainly haven’t shown any.
Because they pick rapists? Yeah, that’s a serious problem.
Seems like they did an acceptable job of responding to it at least, certainly better than the Republicans ever do
That’s for sure, but I would not be happy if “better than the republicans” is the standard.
Also, we really owe a debt of gratitude to the women that came forward, at great personal cost. It shouldn’t have come that far.
It shouldn’t have come this far. It should have been revealed as soon as he became a leading candidate. We don’t owe gratitude for putting things off until it would throw the fate of the whole country into chaos rather than just be “oh well, obviously he shouldn’t be chosen”. No one handled this well and now we’re all going to suffer for it.
And just to make it clear, this is Platner’s fault first and foremost and his selfishness is leagues worse than anyone else, but fuck, people are dying because of votes Susan Collins made and everyone involved in this fiasco treated it with the seriousness of a small town drama.
We don’t owe gratitude for putting things off until it would throw the fate of the whole country into chaos rather than just be “oh well, obviously he shouldn’t be chosen”. No one handled this well and now we’re all going to suffer for it.
We all ignored the warning signs. Everyone chose to disbelieve the first woman that came forward. Please stop pretending this was the first hint of inappropriate behavior on Platner’s part.
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There should be no tolerance of rape or rapists, end of story.
Intolerant of rape? Proudly so.
Judgmental about rapists? Double proudly so.
And that’s above and beyond my intolerance and judgment of Nazi tattooed abu ghraib mercenaries.
He can go grow up somewhere else than in the US senate.
And I assure you the feeling is completely mutual. You are a putrid specimen of humanity. I hope, for their sake, people pick the bear.
His opponent is complicit in genocide and the fascist takeover of the united States.
Precisely how many white women need to be raped to be equivalent to that? It sounds like one. This is simple utilitarian calculus. He represented more net good than his opponent. We have all collectively agreed, based on this race, that genocide and fascism are fine as long as no white women are hurt.
Let’s vote the for the Abu Ghraib mercenary with the Nazi tattoo in the name of non-white people!
Can you hear yourself?
Downplaying actual rape is beyond the pale, but you don’t stop there! Oh no!
If someone like Susan Collins or similar is elected instead, someone who will just create more young rapists in the future, you’ll be morally more inferior, irresponsible and abhorrent than a rapist or even a terrorist. You’ll be an enabler, which is worse: Someone who allows the environment for those monsters to thrive and spread further.
Some of the most important people you need to turn the tables against the Jeffrey Epstein Class are in the military, which is filled to the brim with rapists and killers, people with hardened nerves that can actually punish those monsters. Not you. It’s already clear you don’t have the balls to jail, let alone kill a pedophile like Trump. Your president raped children. Your Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, is still a proud rapist who raped multiple women, even his own mother texted him, begging him to stop raping. Matt Gaetz also fucked children. I could write a long list with these, you know that.
What have you done about that? Or, if you’re not American, about the exact same kind of people running your country? They are global. The fact all you do is guilt-trip and shame those who do try to change or turn against the people who created the terrible environment that got them in trouble, I can do nothing but accept the fact we will never win. We will always be ran by the Jeffrey Epstein Class, because woke cowards like you who care more about instant gratification and their own image will never be able to find “the perfect fighter” they want so bad in time. You don’t have to like, agree or compliment Graham, but he was an asset that would benefit our side if his policies were genuine. Now, however, we might just get some corpo replacement who will create more young Graham Platners and therefor more rape, death and destruction. And that also means it’ll be increasingly harder to find your perfect fighter, because a world this fucked up only breeds fucked up people who don’t give a shit anymore.
For chads with big balls that actually have more than 2 neurons capable of reading past 500 words without dying like a pussy:
- They gut education.
- Today’s kids are dumber than a bag of bricks. College kids testing as 10-years old I saw yesterday. Covid sent us back like 70 years in the average IQ. TikTok trends and teachers crying and quitting in camera, because everyone is a brat.
- They normalize pedophilia. Look at how young people joke about Jeffrey. About how common spotting pedophilia has become, someone shared this article earlier in another post, “One in six people want to touch children”
- Crime increases. Tons of teenagers with their own rape stories, of being taken advantage of during a party where they got drunk, 13 Reasons Why cringe shit 24/7 everywhere. That is what lack of education does to human beings.
- Those who, after a long time of wrongdoings and experiencing the consequences, want to change and fight against the establishment, the system that made those traumas happen more easily, get guilt-tripped, rejected, bullied, constantly smeared by people like you who will never risk their lives for anyone, not even to save children, because you “will never risk your life for a mess republicans made. I will never risk my life to save all these broken people, this broken country I hate so much now.”
Ok, what do we do then? Do you promise you will find and elect someone better than Graham? Because if you don’t, I will have to assume, as a final fact, that absolutely every single American in the USA or people that behave just like you, are beyond redemption. That you are not someone that can flash their moral compass like a badge, like you’re doing right now to the other guy you’re replying to. You’re not coming across as more sound, reasonable or morally superior, but a coward who is just going to make us suffer and feel pain for a longer time. I am not religious, but God is all about forgiving and getting their children to learn and become better. The difference between Graham and most republicans like Trump, is that he is not openly proud of being evil, or constantly bragging about his crimes. “Dark woke” my balls, you will never be dark in your life, you’re too sensitive. Look at you. A single rape allegation was all it took to take you down.
If your whole argument is “a rapist will never be able to save us” you’re wrong. A lot of your favorite historical figures, or the ones you’d most admire, are some of the biggest rapists ever. It’s part of Human Nature to be messy as fuck, you yourself probably have skeletons in the closet you will never announce. It’s always funny to find out that those that act “hollier than thou” all the time tend to be some of the most abhorrent and disgusting people ever. I hope that is not the case here, it’s so goddamn common, I’m tired of it. And no, I am not one, because what drives me forward is to see how unfair and evil most people are toward my brother who has Down Syndrome and can’t even speak. You also treat people like that like shit. I’ve seen Libs/Leftists/Democrats saying heinous shit about disabled people. I already gave up on the dick-measuring contest of who is more moral or who isn’t. It’s very likely you are a monstrous piece of shit, so, it’s a waste of time to focus on those things, I rather focus on the results, policies, and what is currently available to dismantle this corrupt broken system. You, in the other hand, only care about looking good while doing all that. You’re wasting our time with narcissistic diva bullshit, and that is costing everyone millions of innocent lives around the world.
As a Mexican whose grand grandfather escaped Lebanon in the Middle East, if you elect someone like Susan Collins, or someone very similar, it means more of my people will continue to suffer in misery, be killed and raped. Some by American troops themselves. So, to me, you’re worse than a terrorist for this hate you show to Graham Platner. In Mexico, we have been FORCED to support people way worse than a rapist or mere killer to be able to make the country better. And it did get better, because what mattered most were the actions and ideas, not the personality or who the person was at that moment. That’s why the quote “Never meet your heroes” exist. Why are you still trying to purity test everyone if you are already morally inferior? Why waste time? Just focus on winning and dismantling this system asap already.
When you were young, were you rich or poor? Did you ever interact with children that came from very poor neighborhoods at school? Children who were truly broken from the start, their parents doing domestic violence, especially in poorer countries or cities like here in Mexico. Some of them are victims of sexual abuse. A lot of them get forced or recruited to a cartel when they are as young as 12. We have the infamous “El Ponchis” a 11-year old whose job was to decapitate people. That was a decade ago, he received a lot of therapy and help, and it is said he has changed and reformed. Of course the scar is still there and it must be hard to look at him in the eyes, but this is Humanity, dog. If you cannot navigate through it, then you shouldn’t be even trying to interact with it. You’re only causing more death and destruction with your relentless loyalty to your own image, not what it’s best for Humanity at the moment.
Seriously, time will only tell: If you elect someone whose policies are worse than Platner’s, another corpo or Susan Collins or someone like her, you’ll be more morally reprehensible and disgusting than Platner himself. That’s the deal here, whether you like or not, it is the bet you just made.
I don’t think he cares about non-whites like you may. I think he hates capitalists, or billionaires, or whatever homunculus he’s created in his mind that embodies the ruling class. That’s useful; a bitter, violent man with a grudge. That’s good, that’s very good. The US war machine is built off the backs of people like him for a reason.
I think given the opportunity he would be an asset in harming US imperial interests. He’s an angry killer and we gave him something to go after. I’m starting to notice a lot of “leftists” don’t have the stomach for the kinds of things were going to have to do to bring every single fascist in this country to heel.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, don’t you have like an hourly report to be sending to your supervisor fed boy?
I don’t think he cares about non-whites like you may.
So he’s a racist, why he running for Democrat?
Jeez, talk about a mask off moment.
Don’t go away mad, just go away.
He certainly could have handled this with more class, but at least the way is now clear for a replacement which doesn’t have this sort of cloud over their head. Hopefully, the convention process the State Democrat Party uses is done with enough transparency and openness to keep the replacement from being seen as a complete shill. But, that will remain to be seen. Democrats in Maine really need to unseat Collins, if there is to be any chance of flipping the Senate. Even with her gone, I’m not sure I’d put money on Democratic control of the Senate. But if Collins manages to hold on, I’d think the chances drop to something between zero and nil.In what universe does the Democrat party transparently handle last minute opportunities to shoehorn in a candidate?
not this one, anyway. They would rather lose than run a populist
Instead of taking accountability for his own actions, those of the rapes and the other controversies that led to the rapes being way too believable, he’s doubling down on blaming others and stoking conspiracy theories.
Wow. I missed that trial completely.