• CovfefeKills@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    No dude there is people all over lemmy screaming that because there is no air in space datacenters won’t work up there. That is the extent of it dude, and you let it slide. These are your peers and you let them think the reason it is won’t work is because no air.

    Now for high performance computing to crunch sensor data before streaming it back to earth? That is a great idea that has existed long before AI, why would you want to hinder science because of AI hate fad? Why don’t you want scientists to have computers in space? How is this not the absolute perfect example I never said datacenters are a good idea but you inserted that over what I did say which was HPC for science in space. Like bro come I’m going to need to you apologise I can’t keep losing faith in you people like this.

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      3 days ago

      Air & water is what carries most of the heat away. Putting server farms that need to stay cool in space makes 0 sense. Space isn’t necessarily “cold” like people think.

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        Air & water are not the only things that can cool a computer down in space. We want faster more powerful computers in space to process telescope data before streaming it back to earth because the limits are bandwidth and computing we can already send big camera sensors up there. The AI hate fad is catching strays. Some of our more amazing data is from longform surveys taken from the ground where the data is stored in, you guessed it, a datacenter.

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          Stop moving the goal post. To process satellite images, you need way, waaaaay, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less compute than for AI datacenters. We are not arguing about image processing for a single satellite. (Which is still jot a great idea, ideally you’d want to improve throughput instead since you still want the raw images for people to work with, just faster, no?)

          No, what you were talking about were data enters for AI (no, you didn’t say AI, but that’s what everyone on Lemmy says is a bad idea in space, and you were referring to everyone on Lemmy, so, we are talking about AI data enters in space).

          • putting them in space doesn’t make them faster.
          • putting them in space is incredibly expensive
          • cooling them in space is way harder than on earth; radiating heat away is a function of the surface area of the cooling modules, and you cannot escape that
          • maintenance (remember - things fail) is way harder and astronomically expensive and slow
          • and, thanks for reminding me, sending AI output to and from is subject to the same slowness as for images from telescopes

          Sorry, “data-center in space” is a stupid idea. Musk yaps about it because a) he’s an idiot and b) enough investors fell for it

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            3 days ago

            If I am moving the goalposts it is because I am moving them back. Nice try you anti-science asshole.

            This is what I said 15 hours ago it is unedited…

            The AI hate train is trying to hold back high performance computing from processing sensor data and streaming it back to earth.

            You are just pathetic. You don’t get to tell me what I am talking about so you can feel better about yourself you rot.

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            3 days ago

            One way is just by making something hot. It will radiate heat energy into space without convection. But I am not here trying to design a space computer I am here to piss on internet tribalism.