• BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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    21 hours ago

    Funny, my litmus test starts at “do they support a genocide?” and then move on to things like “do they want to expand the militaristic police surveillance state?” and “are they running on being tough on immigrants?” and “do they do violent crackdowns on peaceful protesters?” and “do they protect womens rights?” and “do they protect queer people?” and “do they throw minorities and marginalised groups under the bus in order to appease right wing fanatics?” and “are they warmongers?”

    Funny how that is. Funny how some of us only seem to care about whether or not their team is winning, while others care about what the teams are doing. Very funny.

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      20 hours ago

      Fresh ml account absolutely SPAMMING anti-voting shit as midterms approach. Shocking.

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        20 hours ago

        lol right. No excuse for this stuff. Bot or human, they’re only helping Republicans by spreading this bullshit.

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          20 hours ago

          I didn’t say you’re a bot. I implied you’re a propagandist.

          Go do your thing on hexbear instead, they love capitulation to fascists.

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      Well you know that is funny because I guess I’m more able to step back and look at the big picture from a rational standpoint; you know, logically looking at every single issue:

      • Are Democrats better than Republicans on support for Ukraine against the Russian Genocide? — Yes.
      • Are Democrats better than Republicans on LGBTQ+ Rights? — Yes.
      • Are Democrats better on women’s rights and abortion rights — Yes.
      • Are Democrats better on antitrust? — Yes. (See what they did to Ticketmaster and what Trump reversed).
      • Are Democrats better than Republicans on Climate Change — Yes. (Republicans backed out of Paris Climate Agreement)
      • Are Democrats better at handling global pandemics? — Yes. (better science adherence; Republicans backed out of WHO).
      • Are Democrats better at not committing January 6’s? — Yes.
      • Is ALL opposition to Palestinian genocide in government from Democrats? (Abdul, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Tlaib, etc.) — YES.

      So, anyone who is not supporting Democrats over Republicans is of course enabling an objectively-worse party and President (Trump). I mean if I was Palestinian I certainly would take my choice of any Democrat over any Republican! Worse than that, they are objectively stating that they do not care about the other issues mentioned (and this is non-exhaustive).

      Single-issue voters are bad, even when it comes to allegations of genocide (because there is a gradient to even one genocide, let alone the second you conveniently neglect to discuss).

      Thus, the default position should be: Anyone willing to allege Republicans are equal or better than Democrats should be treated as a nazi because their ill-logic in fact supports the worst evil, the nazi.

      (It’s kinda like that saying, “If there’s a nazi at a table and ten other people there, you got 11 nazis.” Well, if you have a nazi, a Dem, and someone saying “BoTh SiDes!”, then you’ve got 2 nazis.)

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        8 hours ago

        In line with everyone else’s beef, I think Thomas Massie counts as being … Well, maybe not anti-genocide, but certainly anti-Israel.

        Every other point seems to check out, as grim and reluctant as Democrat support may be.

        Except maybe to your J6 point. Trump goons tried (and failed) to achieve their aims, but Democrats haven’t tried at all, so -1:0?

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          I respect Massie’s decision to stand up on this (as I have Kinzinger and Liz Cheney for sacrificing their seats to try to hang on to Democracy). The problem is that Massie lost his Republican Primaries race and is thus guaranteed to not be holding his seat when the next Congressional term starts. Republicans voted Massie out for protesting; Democrats kept the likes of Tlaib in.

          Except maybe to your J6 point. Trump goons tried (and failed) to achieve their aims, but Democrats haven’t tried at all, so -1:0?

          haha fair enough

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        • Is ALL opposition to Palestinian genocide in government from Democrats? (Abdul, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Tlaib, etc.) — YES.

        What are you talking about? You know that Republicans like MTG exist right? And you know that AOC herself voted against MTG’s Iron Dome defunding bill right?

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          in government” — did you see that part?

          You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.

          Iron Dome is purely a defensive asset to protect civilians; anyone who cares about children would do the same.

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            The only reason Israel can bomb other nations to hell as much as they want is the Iron Dome dipshit, and Israeli citizens are civilians as much as Afrikaners are civilians. If they want peace, they can get the fuck out of some random Palestinian’s house and go back to Europe.

            This is the first time I’m hearing “Won’t somebody think of the Israeli children” too, so congratulations on that note as well.

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              Please directly answer and acknowledge your mistake in reading my original comment:

              “in government” — did you see that part?

              You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.

              Yes I care about children no matter where they live. Only people who are fucked in the head would say otherwise.

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                You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.

                Yeah, I’ll concede on that, though it appears that she didn’t get kicked out but resigned instead.

                Yes I care about children no matter where they live. Only people who are fucked in the head would say otherwise.

                Nobody is trying to murder children in the region except for Israel asshat. As I said in my previous response, the Iron Dome only works to prevent retaliation from neighbouring countries so that Israel can murder and pillage as much as it wants. Your shitty attempts at “Think of the children” don’t work on this platform. If Israel is so worried about that, then it can stop doing genocide, and its people can get the fuck out of Palestinian homes.

                Until then, you’ll keep voting for those who help the Nazis of today. Congrats! Lesser evil, amirite? 😜

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          The war in Ukraine would not have happened if it werent for the agressive postering of the democrats, so I’m gonna have to say no.

          I really don’t need to read any further when someone endorses blatant genocide perpetrated by russia and funded by China and North Korea.

          True colors and blatant hypocrisy showing.