• Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      RIP Google Play Music. Have yet to find another streaming service who’s algorithm knew me so well to discover new music

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        9 days ago

        there were two things i loved. one i think was called turntable, which let you and friends take turns DJing. you’d queue up a song and then after your 2 or 3 or idk i usually used it with the same group friends got their plays in, you got yours. i don’t know what happened to it as we stopped using it.

        then was thesixtyone, which had great artist discovery. but they were not the best about getting licenses and lost their eventual IP lawsuit. after that they kind of turned into spotify. i’ve just been using my private collection since then.

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            9 days ago

            I am very confused

            I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought?

            Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube.

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              9 days ago

              I’ve heard a conspiracy theory that says that the apps and services that Google dumps were experiments in data gathering and correlation. So basically they make a music platform like GPM, they use it to get a great music prediction algorithm, then kill the platform because what they wanted was the algorithm. They have money to burn so they don’t care about one more tiny revenue stream or about making a great music platform.

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                  7 days ago

                  Whatever they need. Alphabet Inc. is made up of a dozen companies with thousands of products. There’s always something that can benefit from such insight.

                  The location data that Google collects through Android phones, alone, is mind-blowing. Just from your daily movement they can figure out where you live, where you work, shop, eat, drink, vacation. Indirectly they can figure out who your friends and relatives are, your partners, extra interests and hobbies etc. They sell all that to advertisers, there’s a reason why so much of Alphabet revenue comes from ads. Then there’s more complex patterns like traffic for example that they can sell to city planners and so on. And that’s just location data.

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    9 days ago

    At this point, anyone that relies on a Google service is just asking for trouble.

    Yes they will kill off the thing you have grown reliant on, and so you’re better off to avoid anything with google

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      8 days ago

      That’s kinda been Google’s standard operating procedure from the start. Anything they get bored with, they bin. I have refused to adopt any of their tech for a long time because I watched them shutter good products all the time. They are too stochastic and too unreliable to trust with any important data.

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      9 days ago

      Worth noting that while Klipy is headed up by ex Tenor employees, Google has also heavily invested in Klipy.

      At my community (The Gamers’ Tavern) we ditched Discord (when all the age verification crap started) in favour of Discourse and Fluxer (Discord clone, but open source and self hostable) and currently Klipy integration is offering a sketchy and vague pricing model that is looking like it is going to include ads.

      So, that’s the vein that runs through all of this. Google killed Tenor, funded a new startup that’ll eventually likely be somewhere they can of course shove ads into.

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      9 days ago

      Tenor was always slow for me and had shit search.

      I didn’t know it was owned by Google, but now that I do it makes complete sense.

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        9 days ago

        May I ask what sense the “bad search” does in the scope of one of the most common and known advertisement business backed by their fundamentally crucial systems for search, statistics, and analytics?

  • youmaynotknow@lemmy.zip
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    9 days ago

    Love seeing how it seems like these tech giants are starting to try to fuck each other up. This will be fun.

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    9 days ago

    Whatever replaces Tenor needs to allow for more specificity in searching. If I search “lemur” and I see 3 orangutans, a chimp and a 12 gibbons, and maybe 1 actual lemur, I’m still happy to have simians, but I really needed a lemur, man. I was quite fucking specific in my search term. Had I written “monkey” but it showed me a series of apes, I wouldn’t mind that so much.

    Also, “cat on skateboard” has fuck all to do with a poorly staged video of a dog playing Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater with a set of gaming bongos. Again, glad to see it, but where’s my skateboarding cat??

    • Snapz@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      Google’s search products are designed to NOT serve your desired search result. It will serve the most profitable result, FOR THEM, that is at least tangentially related to your search… Maybe. You’ll likely click on one or you’ll try a second search and engage with them more. Google profits, you lose.

      Google is a restaurant, the only restaurant that most know of. They have a surplus of hot dogs, but they used to serve hamburgers. You have a reasonable expectation that they’ll have hamburgers. You order a hamburger and you get an hot dog with cotton candy on it. No refunds. You can try to order another hamburger, but the next could be a hamburger or a balloon filled with toilet water. Most will just eat the hot dog unfortunately. Reinforcement, they will continue.