• Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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    18 hours ago

    But the time to fight is when they are in charge, not when they are the alternative for a party that will masacre civilians if they gey the opportunity.

    This is nonsense. When they are in power, that you’ve helped them get, is exactly when you have lost ALL leverage over them.

    See 2020 for a real life example - just look up the name Neera Tanden.

    • Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org
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      15 hours ago

      The alternative to a democrat win remains a Trump win in which your chance to win a fight against the system is significantly lower.

      I don’t like that is the case but its the mathematical truth that the one to win this cycle will be one of the 2 major fascist parties.

      I love to wake up in world where i am wrong.

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        2 hours ago

        As the other poster put, history doesn’t seem to support you. We can see that even in voting amounts from 2020 and 2024 - and the things that the Democrats even felt the need to lie about in the primaries.

        Even if your ONLY aim is to see the Democrats win, you should be opposed to the current leadership.

      • BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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        12 hours ago

        The alternative to a democrat win remains a Trump win in which your chance to win a fight against the system is significantly lower.

        Nobody in the mainstream gave a shit about the genocide in Palestine until Trump came into power. Nobody gave a shit about the inflated police budget until Trump came into power. Nobody gave a shit about the pursuance of brinksmanship until Trump came into power. Nobody gave a shit about the protests that were shut down under Biden, or the many infrastructural issues or the fracking or the credible accusations of rape or the foreign interventions or all the other stuff.
        Not in the mainstream media and not in the popular zeitgeist.

        Trump coming into power seems to be a catalyst for mobilising a bunch of amoral dumbass liberals like OP. The conditions to create change are much better now.