• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    So are you contending that gay people should be openly supportive of Isreal, a country actively engaged in a genocide?

    You see the problem here, right? These aren’t black and white, one side good, one side bad situations.

    Iran is a terrible country. My partner and I would both be stoned to death there. But there are also queer people living in Iran, in spite of their intolerant regime, many of whom would likely suffer greatly if Isreal manages to force Iran into a war.

    Reality is more complicated than just assigning “good guys” and “bad guys”. That shit is for Star Wars.

    In this specific situation, there is no justification for what Isreal has done. Their attacks on Iran have been unprovoked, and in clear violation of international law. These must recent attacks, by Israel’s own admission, include non-military targets which makes them war crimes. Iran on the other hand has responded carefully and proportionally. Does it feel weird to be giving props to such a horrific regime for their behaviour? Absolutely. But it’s impossible not to recognize that in this specific situation they are being the adult in the room.

    Isreal is actively trying to provoke a war with Iran precisely because they believe it will turn international opinion in their favour, distract from the holocaust they are enacting in Gaza and shore up domestic support for their government. I’m not a fan of anyone involved in this situation, but I sure as hell am not going to express support for the country trying to start a war to distract from their genocide.

    • Godric@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      So are you contending that gay people should be openly supportive of Isreal, a country actively engaged in a genocide?

      No, as evidenced when I said “Me when people are cheering on Iran, a country that literally executes gay people” instead of “Gay people should be openly supportive of Israel”. As you did not read what I wrote, I did not read your further paragraphs about something I did not say.

      • CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        If you can’t understand why your post comes across as potentially saying people should support Israel then you probably shouldn’t be speaking out on issues like this.

        When you say to someone, “Oh, you support [thing]???” In a negative way, and that thing is something that is diametrically opposed to another thing, it is almost always going to come across as implying support for the diametrically opposed thing. Your reply then comes off as a very bad faith response at best, if not a full stumble into narcissism.

        • iegod@lemmy.zip
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          1 year ago

          I think this says more about your limited perspective than ops, truthfully.

        • FosterMolasses@leminal.space
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          1 year ago

          It sounds like you’re projecting a lot.

          They clearly stated twice that they are a gay person that does not support Israel. Learn to read instead of just seeing what you want to see to justify your anger.

          • CheezyWeezle@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            That explanation came after the fact. The original comment is a reply to the original post, which does not include any of that context. You need to learn how the progression of time works before you try to talk down to me about reading comprehension, because you can’t even comprehend what order things arrived in.