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How will you get the milk and eggs without abuse? Cows don’t just automatically start producing milk and chickens were bred to lay more eggs at the cost of their health. If you really tried to get these products without abusing the animals it would be so inefficient that only a tiny fraction of people could afford to consume them in bigger amounts.
That’s shifting the goal post to cost, and not answering my question. Humans domesticated chickens long before factory farming existed. Animals breed of their own volition. There ARE farms that are only end-of-life slaughter. Do not force their animals to breed, provide excellent lives, etc. Who cares if it’s inefficient? That wasn’t the question. I’m going to ask the same question again. Are you universally against ALL animal products on principle, or would you be okay with goats cheese, as an example, if you could be certain it had a phenomenal life?
Considering I don’t see animals as some product that exists for me so I would consider eating goats cheese in this utopian scenario the similarly as eating cheese made from human milk; really fucking weird, with the addition that human cheese would probably be made with the explicit consent of the human it stems from which the goat can never give unless you want to open the floodgates to even more sexual animal abuse
It’s wild how many people can’t separate an animal from the ways it can benefit people. If a goat is making milk, it probably has a baby to feed. The idea of just letting it feed that baby doesn’t seem to occur to people. They see the milk as a product for their own use, and if people aren’t using it, it’s “wasted.” It only makes sense if one’s never critically examined their choices in a world full of exploitation.