The current freak-out by Donald Trump, J. D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Stephen Miller, and other right-wingers about democratic socialism is quite rational. In socialism, they see a formidable foe.
The current freak-out by Donald Trump, J. D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Stephen Miller, and other right-wingers about democratic socialism is quite rational. In socialism, they see a formidable foe.
I’m not sure how you got that connection in your last sentence couple sentences. It’s not a choice between two evil acts. I’m pointing to it because no one ever talks about a “distraction” from Gaza.
The idea that Epstein needs to be “distracted” from is because it’s something that more Americans know and care about. But, more importantly, it’s something that happened TO AMERICANS. So, Americans believe that there is some justice they are due.
The false belief Americans have is that when children are dying and raped in those “savage” countries by our countries direct or indirect actions are just an unfortunate result of “how the world works”. But, Americans, we are special, we deserve justice.
If someone has this false belief they reach a contradiction when addressed with Epstein. That is, if they acknowledge the crimes of the Epstein class elsewhere. They must address this contradiction. So they continue to believe that the justice is just “on hold”. That when Trump is gone or out of power the system will bring justice. They keep reminding everyone of the crimes because they (rightfully) don’t want them to be forgotten. There must be justice FOR THIS!
But there will not be. Just as there has been no justice for Gaza. At least not from the systems of power that are controlled by the capitalist Epstein class. The only justice we will find for these crimes will be found outside of those systems of power.
Just as Gaza will not find justice in the American systems; neither will Epstein. They are crimes performed by that very system. The only justice will come when that system loses its power. By destroying those systems of power.
They aren’t “distracting” you from anything. Because they don’t care. If you think they care or think they worry you are confusing their own delusions of their own narratives with worry. Trump denying Epstein connections is not because he’s worried for justice. He’s doing that for his own narcissistic narrative. That’s why they don’t proudly say they are pedophiles (yet). It’s for their narcissism, not for their worry of justice. Like you said, even they know people don’t like pedophiles. They care as much as that narcissism needs them to.
They aren’t worried because they still see the rest of us pointing to their rigged system as a means of future justice. They laugh as you appeal to it as the solution.
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I think you’re the one simplifying it and appealing to existing nation structures to avoid addressing class structures. Which is, ironically, exactly the thing I’m critizing. And also trying to appeal to some “human nature” reason for why Americans ignore other crimes.
A distraction would be a form of entertainment. It’s the “bread and circus” of maintaining control. Rounding up people and putting them in concentration camps is not a “distraction”. Killing people that attempt to stop that, or that run away, is not “a distraction”. It’s the form of control that occurs when the “bread and circuses” are no longer able to be maintained.
If you think fascist physically enforcing their power with violence is “a distraction” I don’t know what to tell you.
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Im sorry if I infered things from what you said. But, I am frustrated with the hoops people jump through to avoid discussing class conflict. You haven’t once responded to the points I’ve made about class conflict and class consciousness. You just said “I’m overcomplicating it” rather than attempt to understand what was being said.
I’m not sure if you’re purposely avoiding it. Or, more likely, you’re just not understanding what is being said and you’re filling it in with your own misunderstanding. But I’m not talking about “the rich” like they need to just pay more taxes and shits good. I’m talking about class not wealth. And more importantly, how that class structure gives only one class access to influence government (power).
I agree, online conversations like this are frustrating. But, you have now multiple times ignored my discussion of class and replaced it with things I didn’t say. Instead you appealed to tribalism, calling people racist, or acting like I’m discussing a conspiracy. Nothing of which I’ve said.
If you want to push back on a perspective someone has, you should probably understand that perspective first. Because it’s entirely based on class conflict. Something you’ve refused to respond to. I would have thought that was obvious from “capitalist Epstein class” that I mentioned in my literal first comment.
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Fair enough. My comment was about people constantly calling everything “a distraction” from one specific crime. The article isn’t really meaningful to the comment I made. So not really a part of any of the discussion.
I would say you don’t understand what point I’m making because you are the very type of person lacking class consciousness that my initial comment was frustrated about.
I’m wasn’t really trying to educate anyone with it. It was more venting a frustration.
I’m sorry if I was defensive in my responses. Its usually right wing reactionaries trying to point away from class conflict to something else. It would be better if you have a specific question about what I said. Rather than me trying to “explain connections”. That’s too vague to really answer.
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Man, that’s a lot of words to say “I don’t actually want to learn what you’re talking about”.
It’s not rude to point out what another person may not understand. That’s not stupidity. That’s lacking knowledge.
Stupidity is when someone is addressed with something they do not understand, take it as a personal attack, and then decide they would rather not waste their time to ask a single question.
You wouldn’t look stupid if you asked me something simple like “what do you mean by class?” I’d be very happy to clarify my definition of the word and move forward from there.
But it seems you are too stubborn to do anything simple like that. You’d rather be upset by a condescending tone that I can’t help but let out. If there is something I’m guilty of its definitely that.
Edit: Damn, when they delete all their comments.