• saltesc@lemmy.world
    50·
    2 days ago

    I keep thinking of the scene from Forest Gump and how he’d probably just get shot now, then Jenny as she’s caught wading through a Federal monument, before the crowd gets opened up on for insighting terror.

    The news the next day, some old guy no one knows labelled as a guest expert, “These terrorist groups hide behind terms like “peaceful” and “gathering” but it was an all out attack on America.”

    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
      111·
      1 day ago

      Cause the Russians or Arabs or Chinese are so superior? lol, we are all dog shit on this god-forsaken ball of dirt

      • zane@infosec.pub
        1·
        7 hours ago

        Big old case of ‘everyone sucks here’.

        No wonder the aliens aren’t stopping by for a visit. We’d probably try to rob or kidnap them.

      • wheezy@lemmy.mlEnglish
        71·
        1 day ago

        “Westernized” usually means just Imperialism. Installing a loyal right wing ruler or party that will allow the western capitalist to exploit its workers and resources for profits.

        Fascism is Imperialism coming home. Ironically, we are becoming MORE westernized by that definition.

        • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
          1·
          10 hours ago

          whilst that’s certainly 1 interpretation, there’s also a bunch of other facets

          what people are usually referring to is cultural similarity

          it could be argued that said cultural similarities is due to imperialism, but almost all of human history is imperialism if you look deep enough and it’s not useful to just label everything like that

          in fact, using imperialism in an over-broad way blunts any discussion on the very real, and to-this-day continuing effects

          • wheezy@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            9 hours ago

            Sure, I’m talking about how that word is used to very specifically give “in group” labeling to countries that are loyal to the current American empire. A country like South Korea will be labeled “westernized”. It doesn’t have to do with culture. It’s western supremacy using the label to signal loyalty. Something that for our lifetimes has essentially just meant countries opening their doors to exploitation from western neoliberalism.

            In recent years it’s being used more in the sense that you are mentioning. A signal to “culture” as more western countries fall for xenophobic nationalist movements that want to blame all their problems on immigrants.

            Words evolve and a word like “westernized” has historically just been a way for racist to try to separate in groups and out groups to appeal to a vague idea of some imaginary past that needs to be returned to. This is done on a global scale with Imperialist labeling. But it is also done internally to incite hatred to “the other”. Whether it be immigrants, Muslims, Jews, or LGBTQ people.

            The Nazis did it with German “culture”. The Americans did it with Manifest Destiny and are again doing it with MAGA. It’s not really a label of “culture” at all. It’s really just white supremacy.

            Also, Imperialism as I’m using the word is very different than some idea of “Imperialism” that you seem to be using. It is very much tied to capitalist modes of production and ownership. It’s not some “ancient” thing that has existed for all time. It is a stage of capitalism. Some may say the highest stage of capitalism.

            A group of people invading another people and stealing their resources is not “Imperialism”. Which is the only thing I can assume you think it is by your idea that it’s “always existed”. It has not. That is just redefining the word to the point of uselessness as to not address it’s actually meaning.