• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    incelibacy, lack of accountability, racism and machismo are a helluva drug. And the media helping out by using the passive voice for the officers murder of that man is disgusting. What happened to journalism in the US.

    snowballs chance they will investigate this either, same as with Renee Good and the other 6 or so people.

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    Remember kids! The only purpose of police throughout history is to protect the property and wealth of the owning class. This is one way they achieve that goal.

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    “An officer discharged his weapon”…“The driver of the vehicle was struck”

    Quite intentionally using passive voice in that second statement as if the officer didn’t intend to shoot the victim. This is murder.

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      The passive voice is actually common in police reports throughout the United States. This is not new. (The passive voice is also a bad habit of journalists who report on officer-involved violence.)

      The difference now is that the state agents are loyal to the regime rather than the state. There’s not even a pretense of enforcing the law.

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    Shooting at fleeing suspects is absolutely not legal without actual articulable facts that they pose a threat to the public. This isn’t even a legal defense.

    Arguably, this is a murder confession.

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      I mean, this administration has made it very clear that ICE gets to call the shots and declare whatever they want. There is no oversight. That’s on purpose.

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      It would seem they are training the public to fight for their lives when ICE comes knocking. At some point ICE thugs will be ran over, shot, or stabbed if they keep doing this shit. Or maybe we’ll just roll over and let them walk all over us, murder us in the streets, and be sent to die in a concentration camp.

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      I think it’s quite clear at this point that DHS agents are being told/trained that ANY moving vehicle is automatically a threat to their lives or the public simply by the nature of it being a moving vehicle.

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      You see, they were so concerned about the damage that a single (allegedly) illegal immigrant could cause to the community that they had to act immediately.

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      For starters its suicide. The law – insomuch as it ever protected citizens-- flies right out the window if anyone shoots at or near a cop. And cops tend to get away with whatever they want.

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      You only need to see the number of all the “Back the Blue” bumper stickers to understand. A lot of us are conditioned to bow down to cops no matter what the facts of a situation are.

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      truly. they will likely intensify their efforts if we do, but the only other option we have is to keep rolling over and allowing it.

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        They might intensify their efforts a little faster than they would have otherwise, but I guarantee you they will intensify their efforts either way.

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        I can’t prove this, but I suspect they have some way of finding out who has a firearm, so they can avoid that person.

        I also suspect, but cannot prove, that the media will hide it when one of them gets shot. I say this because one of them got hit by a car and it wasn’t nationwide news served up by tearful news anchors about this innocent agent who would never hurt a fly.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ice-agent-struck-by-fleeing-suspect-s-car-in-new-jersey/ar-AA25HuS7

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          I can’t prove this, but I suspect they have some way of finding out who has a firearm, so they can avoid that person.

          Nah someone carrying a “gun” just gives them a legal reason to shoot someone. Case in point Alex Pretti, Philando Castile, Daniel Shaver, Stephon Clark, Tamir Rice, etc. If an officer suspects you might be thinking about shooting then they can legally kill you.

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        We’re already pretty close to open civil war. Might as well rip the bandaid off and get it over with i guess. I’d rather not, but that’s the way things seem to be going.

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      If I was going about my daily life with a 3 year old in the back I wouldn’t be too interested in getting into a shootout either.

      But I agree, I’m waiting for a shoe to drop here, how much more tense can it be?

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    Using the word “anymore” implies there was a time we could trust them. I feel this creates a false narrative.

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      That statement had nothing to do with trust. “Anymore” simply says that they used to try to cover the murders up but now they don’t even bother.

      Edit: person above was referring to the post title and not the content. My bad.

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        I believe the comment you’re responding to was referring to OP’s post title, not the comment in the post that was responding to the DHS statement

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          To be honest I didn’t even read the post title, just the content. Headlines and post titles are always sensationalized or outright fabrications and I rarely read them.

          So yeah, I agree with GP in that case.

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    It began operations on March 1, 2003, after being formed as a result of the Homeland Security Act of 2002, enacted in response to the September 11 attacks.

    It’s wild how long ago it seems, but there has been extreme distrust in the DHS since the beginning, when it was clear that 9/11 was used to expand surveillance capabilities of the state.

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      Osama bin Laden won. Who would have thought it would have taken so little to topple the American Empire?

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        Eh, he was setup. Unless somebody can explain how a skyscraper collapses into it’s footprint without timed charges taking out the foundations.

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          Skyscrapers are essentially a bunch of very heavy concrete+steel slabs with, comparably, weak spacers in between them. If one of the floors collapses on top of the other with enough speed/force to break the spacer it continues to fall unabated. Now it has double the weight and it’s no longer static meaning that it’s constantly accelerating due to gravity.

          This cascades down every floor gaining increasing amounts of mass*speed(energy) and by the time it hits the foundation it’s more powerful than any sort of “timed charge”.

          The amount of energy needed to start this cascade is several orders of magnitude less than what is needed to ‘push it over’. By the time it’s behaving under physics like the ‘jenga tower’ scenario you’re envisioning it’s <10% the height of the original structure.

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            Yeah, but what’s to stop it from faking to the side? Especially with an uneven start to the collapse?

            I totally get the idea of it collapsing. That’s obvious. Why straight down? If any part of that mass falls at an uneven rate, that skyscraper is going to demolish a massive area as it collapses.

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    There’s basically no reality in which I ever have a fragment of faith in this country again if ICE traitors aren’t held accountable for their crimes the next time we have adults in charge.

    So I’m gearing up to hate this shithole for the rest of my life, cuz I seriously doubt that’s going to happen.

  • Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    lies have been SOP for the trump machine since day one. to expect otherwise is nice but ultimately fruitless

  • Manjushri@piefed.social
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    From another article

    A witness told the Portland Press Herald that he heard gunshots, then saw an SUV attempting to “ram a small white car in the intersection” before agents in vests stopped the white car and pulled the man from the vehicle. Before he died, the victim was “bleeding profusely from the head,” that witness said. “He was talking. He said, ‘I tried to stop.’”

    Another witness told the Press Herald that the victim’s family was apparently at the scene of the shooting. As the man lay on the street, an “older woman” was present “with a distressed family,” including a toddler—a little girl in Bluey pajamas. “You took her dad, you took her dad!” the woman yelled.