• Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 days ago

    If not repeating literal homophobic libel is “giving him a pass” then yeah, man. I want to give every queer person a pass by thinking it’s fucked up to say they raped children without evidence.

    Interesting how you skimmed right by the part of my comment about criticizing him on the heinous shit he actually did. thought this was a reply to a different comment. Regardless, if the only way [general] you know to criticize Graham is through homophobia, it just means you’re a fucking homophobe.

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      Regardless, if the only way [general] you know to criticize Graham is through homophobia, it just means you’re a fucking homophobe.

      That’s predicted in the belief your opponent isn’t an open hypocrite…

      Lindsey had no shame about political things, and I feel like you need to read up on his role in the last decade of SC picks if you feel differently.

      One of the few things he did feel shame about, was his absolute passion for sucking cock.

      It’s literally one of the few things that got to him, made him flustered, and distracted him from the evil he was doing.

      No one gave Lindsey shit for sucking cock because sucking cock was bad.

      They gave him shit for being ashamed of sucking cock.

      That is a huge difference that you just can’t seem to grasp, if Lindsey was still around he was a master of grabbing anything hard near him, he could have helped you out.

      The punchline isn’t that he was gay, it’s that he was too much of a coward to admit it, and caused the deaths of thousands of people pushing military actions to appear macho.

      Fuck that closeted piece of shit, and ignorance of how shit works doesn’t give you an excuse to defend him.

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        Unfriendly self-hating hypocrites make up a huge number of people who make other people’s lives miserable. His nickname on capital Hill was Lady G, it was an open secret. He would have loved to know that LGBT and allies were twisting themselves in knots over his love of cock.

        The right doesn’t like that they crash grndr every time they gather en mass in the US. It’s not homophobic to make fun of them for being a bunch of cock hungry cowards. The cock hungry isn’t the problem, the cowardice is.

        Grndr flag at half mast for lady graham

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      Whether gay or straight, the man was a homophobic bigot that spent decades making the lives of gays and other vulnerable groups’ lives less safe. If he were also gay that would not only mean that he was a self-hating bigot, it would mean that he also enjoyed protection due to his position and due to his homophobic policies from the consequences of said policies while others suffered, which makes him a selfish hypocrite.

      It is not homophobic to suspect that he was gay in an of itself, as many people do, myself included. The fact that he would take that accusation as an insult is what is homophobic, and the fact that that would make him a selfish hypocrite as well as a homophobe is icing on that cake. I am more than willing to let his own self-hating homophobia be a source of discomfort for him in his life and taint on his legacy in his death.

      Our hatred of this man is not because he was gay. It is because he was a homophobic monster and a warmonger at minimum, gay or not. But him being gay does make it worse for the betrayal and duplicity. He was likely a hypocrite that enjoyed safety and security with an active homosexual sex life that he also tried to denied others, like an asshole. Fuck that guy, gay or not, but doubly fuck him if he was a hypocrite too.

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        What I thought I was replying to was a different subthread where someone claimed Graham raped children, that’s the homophobic libel I was referring to. I’ve also seen a post on a different .world community speculating he died of AIDS, which is just overt homophobia.

        Criticize him for the bigoted shit he did, I’ve probably been at it longer than most people celebrating this have since I grew up near the fucker. What’s disgusting is using this as an opportunity to unleash homophobic remarks (like the ones I was referring to above) at someone that ‘deserves’ it. He’s not going to see it: he’s fucking dead. The only people that will see it are living queer people who just get another slap in the face of homophobia, and cis het people who are seeing homophobia more and more normalized.