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Lesson learned. Troy Jackson has already taken off all mentions of Gaza from his campaign platforms. Hope it was worth it yall!
Blame the dems. Not voting for a rapist is still the right call. There would have been other candidates if the establishment wasn’t a shitshow addicted to losing.
Because what’s the point of a primary? There were other candidates and Platner beat them all at the polls despite the DNC’s best efforts.
I cannot believe I let you guys lecture me about “the enemy of the perfect” two years ago when the options were Trump and Diet Trump.
Pretending like this happened after this woman stepped forward with credible evidence, which was after another woman had stepped forward and y’all collectively decided to not believe her, is disingenuous at best.
He wouldn’t have been chosen in the primary if he had been properly vetted.
You don’t like Troy Jackson for his replacement? Then start talking about the positives of the other potential candidates. Let’s stop victim blaming and shitting on women and start focusing on moving forward.
Or maybe Platner was already a personally flawed candidate but people looked past that because of his policies? That it took a Sanders-2016-level bipartisan hit squad to convince people that his personal life from 5 years ago was somehow relevant to being a Senator? He was properly vetted, that’s the entire point of a primary. Literally nobody was buying the Fox News “dog ate my evidence” allegations. Or that Platner was still polling ahead of all other candidates until the day he pulled out, and only did so after Chuck Schumer made the unprecedented call to pull all funding support?
As I said, I hope it was worth it to give the win to the woman who put Kavanaugh in the SCOTUS to overturn Roe v. Wade . There are no other potential candidates, Collins is going to sweep. Kindly buckle in for another 2 years of MAGA congress.
Have you actually looked into how the two recruiters who found Platner vetted him?
It wasn’t 7 years ago, it was 5. Why are you also pushing misinformation?
Yes yes, the gatekeepers of THE PARTY didn’t do enough to uphold the blood purity of THE PARTY for you. This is surely going to beat the elitist allegations against all other candidates in Maine and the rest of the party. Graham Platner was vetted in the primary, which he won against the odds of all establishment forces.
Yeah my bad, got my numbers confused, I’ll change it.
Why are you pushing misinformation that allegations about a person’s personal life are in any way directly relevant to their ability to legislate from across the country? It’s a job interview for a Senator, not boyfriend. On that matter, have you seen the screenshots of the accuser talking to a friend about Platner in 2023 about setting him up with another friend? Even when asked straight up if he forced himself on her, she deflected and said the biggest red flag is that she thinks he has a high body count.
I am glad that we caught him when we did, though. If she would’ve (republished) those accusations even one week later, the DNC would’ve missed their window of opportunity to hand pick his replacement. Any earlier, and it would’ve still been a coin toss in the primary. What a stroke of luck. On a Monday, no less. Very brave of her to work up the courage after 5 years to go forward with her tale.
You think that being a rapist has no relevancy for how someone would yield power over others?
Do you hear yourself?
I just wanted to hop in here @velma@velma@sh.itjust.works and @PP_BOY_@lemmy.world .
First I want to acknowledge that both of you, I think, are making relevant points that have strong bearing on this. I also want to voice that both of you are representing positions which are currently being reflected across many different leftist spaces.
I think the positions can be summarized as follows:
This accusation has more credibility than previous reporting and bears the hallmarks of credibility
The country and systems of power have a long history of not listening to and not elevating women’s voices when it comes to sexual assault
It would be a rather extreme situation for the accuser to come forwards in the manner they did if the accusations had no merit
Many POC and women voiced caution around this candidate previously, and may have felt ignored or dismissed.
And the alternative position can be summarized as:
This is an extremely high profile accusation, at a very very particular timing, against a candidate who has already been a target of similar kind of reporting, but which was so flimsy, it was practically worthy of a retraction
The Democratic establishment who had already opposed this candidate move faster than the news did, based purely on the headlines, to completely shut down the infrastructure the campaign would require to continue being a campaign.
This kind of accusation has been used by Democratic insiders, previously, to shut down candidates which are not preferred by party leadership
No direct evidence of SA was provided in any of the reporting. A very vocal, but very specific coalition of online voices have been working to silence any critique of the evidence provided. Even very mainstream sources have been highly critical of the basic reporting around this.
At the same time that this has all the hallmarks of a credible accusation, it also has all the hallmarks of establishment power exploiting mob justice towards outcomes they prefer. The emails between her and her therapist are not contemporaneous. They’re recent. The therapist won’t go on the record to corroborate. When pushed for corroboration, the Politico reporters are relying effectively entirely on heresay. Brzezinski is hammering them on actual standards of journalism, and they basically didn’t use any. That matters here.
If this isn’t an establishment hit job, it would be exactly how an establishment hit job would be structured. Talking heads have immediately gone to work to say that its “the lefts fault” for all of this, to try and use it to break a larger movement.
The accusations are flimsy at best. I just saw your username and realize I’ve already accused you of raping me. Boom, there is now the exact same amount of evidence supporting my claim as the woman who accused Platner (none).
Also:
It was enough to ignore when Snopes was confirming that Biden showered and inappropriately touched his daughter.
Again:
You don’t seem to understand how the dems work internally. There’s a “wait your turn” mentality; the org pressures candidates to influence the options. Platner didn’t bend to that which is why he stuck out in contrast to their pick (Mills). That’s why they went so hard against him; he wasn’t blessed by the establishment to run.
I was in favor of Platner through various controversies until now because most of them, including SA allegations, were largely unsubstantiated from questionable sources (like known gop operatives or est dems making mountains of molehills) and appeared to be manufactured. The most recent allegations are different, so my stance on him has changed.
He was the most progressive in the running because the rest kowtowed to chuck schumer and didn’t run. Blame the dems, just like the Biden<>Kamala fiasco; they’re addicted to losing; they would rather lose elections than lose control of the party.
Incel meme aside, a lot of the US public really seems to think you can either have a really questionable candidate that agrees with you on some key issue but comes with massive baggage, or a candidate that supports the genocide in Gaza.
As in NY and elsewhere, that this just isn’t true. The establishment Dems don’t want you to know this: you can have both a baggage-free candidate and a candidate that is anti-Israel in the same person.