This means he can be replaced with another Democrat

Per the NYT

Graham Platner can be replaced as the Democratic nominee for Senate in Maine if he withdraws from the race by next Monday, and state law would then give the state Democratic Party until July 27 to name a replacement.

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    I’m not comparing them as people, or even as the severity of their situations.

    They’ve both been accused of rape without sufficient evidence. Emmett Till ended up being found innocent, after he was murdered by an angry mob. If that’s not a plain as day reason why the whole “always believe women no matter what” thing is dangerous, and you can’t see how that applies to this situation, then I’m not going to bother trying to reason with you.

    Who’s Brock Allen Turner?

    Edit: By the way, if you really think the left deserves to lose, then go ahead and vote for Susan Collins. And when you get a government full of literal fascists who enthusiastically support genocide and ethnic cleansings, while defending billionaires and proven sexual predators, then remember to console yourself with the fact that at least you “believed women” when it counted and refused to question whether or not an accusation was even credible.

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      “Always believe women no matter what”

      I’m genuinely not sure if you’re a leftist who’s just braindead, or a rightoid trying to make us look bad, but please stop either way

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        “Always believe women no matter what”

        That’s literally what people mean when they say “believe women.” If you don’t think so, try asking them if there’s any room for exceptions. The thread here shows what kind of answers you’ll get to that. Mostly dismissiveness and personal attacks, because they can’t grapple with the fact that sometimes, some women make false accusations and the resulting conclusion that that means we can’t always believe every allegation just because it was made by a woman.

        Just because I’m a leftist doesn’t mean I have to conform to the more braindead takes we see in leftist spaces like “any man who’s been accused of sexual violence must be guilty because I said so” or how about this gem “black people can’t be racist”

        Tax the rich, yeah. Fund healthcare and education, improve worker’s rights and promote unionization, create social programs that build community at the local level and lift people out of poverty, homelessness, addiction, or whatever else they might be struggling with, fund welfare for people who can’t support themselves due to disability, protect public lands, restore ecosystems, develop public transportation infrastructure, reduce fossil fuel reliance and transition to renewables, take whatever climate action you can, fund research and development (primarily through public universities, and for the public domain rather than corporate IP). These and so many others like them are the kinds of leftist policies that I unequivocally support.

        But make me walk on eggshells for the rest of my life because the more minority status a person has the bigger pedestal we need to put them on, leaving me as a cishetero white man at the bottom of this new social hierarchy where I’m not even allowed to defend myself if someone claims I said or did something that I never did and never would? Fuck that, if that’s a requirement for being a leftist then I’ll go start my own political orientation called “leave me the fuck alone.”

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          Yeah it’s really not, and you’re really making me lean towards “rightoid trying to make us look bad.” When allegations are totally uncorroborated, they aren’t taken that seriously. That’s why a random woman can’t just say “Joe Biden raped me” and end his political career. Now, if Tara Reade had messages talking about him being a rapist dating back to years before he was ever a public figure…

          I’m not reading the rest of that. You’re deeply unserious. Go away

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            When allegations are totally uncorroborated, they aren’t taken that seriously.

            That’s not true at all. And that’s not what people mean when they say “believe women.” That is an absolute and unconditional statement. There is zero wiggle room for “but what if it isn’t true?”

            I’m not reading the rest of that. You’re deeply unserious. Go away

            Go fuck yourself, dude. Enjoy getting Susan Collins elected. And when the republicans narrowly hang on to their senate majority as a result, don’t come crying to me about how no one’s doing enough to stop the fascists. Do you not realize how important this election was?

            You’re like the people who couldn’t focus on anything other than how bad Kamala Harris would supposedly be in the lead-up to the 2024 election. And then when trump got elected, it was “Ohh it’s all the liberals’ fault! Why didn’t they stop the fascism?”

            Well I’ll tell you why. It’s because people like you can’t learn to hold your damn noses and vote for an imperfect candidate if that’s what it’ll take to stop fascism.

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              If he doesn’t drop out, he will lose to Collins. His reputation has been irreversibly damaged. Fervently defending him does nothing but harm the progressive platform, and as such I have to assume you’re a bad actor trying to sow division. My only regret is that blocking you won’t actually prevent you from replying to this comment with more rape apologia.

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                If your idea of “rape apologia” is “not believing every uncorroborated accusation” then how would you like it if I accused you of rape? Probably suddenly “tHaT’s DiFfErEnT!!1!1!1!”

                You’re right about this though: his reputation is irreversibly damaged. Whether the accusation is true or not. But you can’t see how that’s potentially a bad thing?