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It is a bigger, don’t have the Steam Controller dongle integrated, and you need to manually install SteamOS on it.
But you get a machine that can be upgraded way more easily than the Steam Machine, and a better GPU from the start.
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Does it also come with HDMI CEC?
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Does it come with good basically lifetime support?
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Would it get developers optimise for that exact hardware?
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Would it run as quit and efficient?
I’d you just going for raw hardware speed. And don’t care about anything else. You can always make a faster system yourself.
But I know enough people who don’t dare to touch anything near a custom computer, who are looking into this cube
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Looks inside…
- dogshit PSU
- dogshit mobo
- dogshit case with airflow as bad as a cardboard box, light years away from the SM
- it’s the 9060 XT 8GB version, same vram as the steam machine
If I bothered to look at other specs like pcie lanes, usb versions, repairability, noise, I bet my arse I’d be disappointed.
Yeah, but this way you also have the inconvenience of having to build it and install the OS yourself.
You can buy it prebuilt.
Still have to install SteamOS, but that a painless process, I’ve done it multiple timed. You boot the iso, double clic on an icon, accept the prompt that tells you everything on the disk will be erased, and boom, you got the OS installed.
The average user doesn’t want to install an OS though, that’s the whole point of selling it as a complete, pre built package.
Sure, this is a little more powerful than the steam machine, but it lacks all of the actual selling points of the steam machine.What is the selling point of a steam machine.
“Do you want to overpay for obsolete hardware that can barely run most modern games? Are you really stupid and cannot use a USB drive to make a very simple software installation that already has tons of step by step instructions freely available online?”
You are seeing it as a PC. It’s not. You have to see it for what it actually is: a console. You compare this to other consoles, not to a PC.
It’s really fucking sad that in making this thing repairable, and relatively modifiable, people now expect everything else a PC has and compare it to a PC unjustly.
It’s not a prebuilt either. If it were, it would have a sticker on the CPU IHS, the power cable wouldn’t be plugged in internally, and the PSU would catch on fire on the 69th boot.
But let’s see anyway:
- repairability
- freedom of modification
- “lifetime” support in the form of security updates, if I remember right; that older steam console still receives updates like 9 years later
- shared library of games, as opposed to a locked down ecosystem like the PS5 or Xbox S
- when it dies you’ve got yourself a linux server because again, it’s not locked down
- all parts are replaceable, clearly labeled
- you can easily upgrade RAM and storage, and they aren’t that weird rare form factor some prebuilts use, it’s just an LPDDR stick I think
- it’s pretty damn quiet
- it’s tiny as hell; in a living room this really matters
- Valve support is known to be top notch
- no online pay subscription
- an open source arch-based OS that you can know for a fact is not spying on you?
But what exactly are the points in buying a PS5, for example?
- having to pay to play online?
- having a dead box after it becomes unsupported?
- getting a shit controller that breaks if your little brother breaths on it wrong and that you can’t fix because it’s a POS?
- being locked into an ecosystem forever?
- have 0 privacy and need to agree to 10 billion TOS’s every time you do anything? That POS definitely records ALL the data it can about you. I think Steam does too but I think the level of scumminess is not the same.
All just so your games run a little better?
If you don’t like it don’t buy it.
If you have a PC you’re not the target audience in the first place.
The SM could end up having hardware as shitty as this one, you never know. Especially since they’ve shown with the first deck iteration they could release hardware that can cook itself.
Have you seen the GN teardown? Every bit of volume that isn’t already occupied by something is dedicated to cooling. The heat sink runs essentially edge to edge, so no issues with airflow either.
This Dremor guy just hates everything that isn’t a PC.
It’s baffling to me how he’s commenting about it without knowing a sliver about the purpose of the product, or how it’s built.
And I’m a PC guy too. I’d never buy a steam machine, but compared to our usual consoles, the SM is a breath of consumer-friendly fresh air.
Also, releasing SteamOS is a fucking goated move by Valve. One that Sony or Microsoft would have never made with their consoles.
But Microsoft released Windows… /s