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You’ve even got a problem with me assuming you knew one of the biggest comedians of all time? Wow. I don’t get the sense that the names you mentioned are internationally famous whereas Dave Chappelle certainly is. Not to mention that a lot of people stopped liking him specifically due to transphobia. Which I was trying to use as an example to show that not only do I agree that such “jokes” exist, but also that I condemn them.
You still never gave a single reason that this joke would’ve hurt anyone, intentionally or not. It doesn’t. It does not make a comment on how anyone looks, and you’re just an unpleasant person, unfortunately.
I don’t think he can be one of the biggest comedians of all time if he is not known except in some specific region. I would know about him if he was as famous as it seems in your social bubble.
For accidentally omitting this, I am of course very sorry. So, here comes a reason:
The joke makes it look like there’s something funny or wrong with a woman’s face looking male to a lesser or bigger extent.
Dave Chappelle is world famous, no doubt about that. Absolutely nothing to do with my “social bubble” and given that America invented standup comedy (look it up) and it’s emulated around the globe, nothing much to do with my region either. I’m guessing that even in Finland Dave Chapelle is more known that those people you mentioned. It could be that you don’t know about world famous comedians because you’re humorless?
You said that. The problem is that you saying something with no actual basis doesn’t make it true, not in the least. People laughing at something doesn’t make it A) cruel/derisive or B) for whatever ridiculous made up reason you want to pull out of your ass.
This was all explained to you repeatedly and besides being just unpleasant, I now see that you’re a troll. Bye.
Ps. No one likes talking to someone who thinks their very unpopular opinion is fact, nor people who come off as 20 yo and think they know everything. Maybe get a sense of humor as well as work on those two things.
Every person lives in a social bubble. You putting your in “hyphens” shows that you are just not aware of living in one. And that means that it has more effect on you than it has on people that are aware of them.
Seriously. No, he is not. The reason is simply that he makes no shows in Finnish and we are tremendeously more able to get the full depth of jokes in Finnish than in English. Your “whole word” is just English-speaking countries. It is absolutely possible that the guy is known in England as well, but I don’t think more than 2 % of people in France or Germany or Netherlands or Italy know about him. Because he doesn’t have his shows in the local languages. Because he cannot.
We’ve got enough of very good standup comedians here. Someone in USA might be technically better but so much will be lost in translation that in the end we will be laughing more at our own standup comedians’ shows. Because we understand their nuances better. And it’s not even only about the language: There are plenty of small cultural aspects in USA that do not exist as such in Finland, and many references to them will be missed or misunderstood.
I like standup comedy a lot, and I would absolutely know if that guy was famous in Finland.
Sorry, I assumed you had forgotten.
Well, you saying there is not basis when there is a basis is an argument. But a rather weak one.
It can make it, depending on what’s going on in the head of the person laughing. There are many ways to laugh at things. While in many manners you do give me an impression of a moron, in many ways you are not one. There is no reason to assume you are a hillbilly idiot. I do believe you would not laugh at me in a derisive manner if you saw my face. Many others do. And those people’s reactions to this joke image is what makes me feel afraid, not your reaction. And also not the intent of whoever made the image.
You know that multiple people told you a much more logical reading of the joke than the one you went out of your way to contort it into.
Congratulations, you’ve taken a vague feeling of frustration at people who value feeling self righteous over comedy’s existence in general, and with the moron/hillbilly comments, the feeling is now that I actively hate you. What a deeply shitty way to be. I don’t believe for one second you like standup comedy btw, because standup comedy necessarily contains jokes that could be twisted into something they aren’t. How do I know? That’s literally what the concept of humor is. You’re now blocked. Thanks for making the world a worse place.
The more logical reading is sensible indeed.
That does not mean other readings cannot exist at the same time.
Also, I wonder if they understand that by blockine they don’t really block me from seeing them – only themself from seeing me.
Why would they say something clearly meant for you to read if they don’t understand the basics of blocking?
You’ve told readers here that you do not care about comedy and also that you very much want to feel victimized (“why do you think I look funny” gives that away hard). Everyone who disagrees with you is a transphobe, according to you. This attitude undoubtedly has a huge negative impact on you and those who interact with you. Which would be pitiable, except…
After reading this full exchange, I couldn’t agree with them more about the issue and about you. Blocking you now myself.
I disagree with this sentiment, mostly. My own experience is of course that almost everyone has at least some level of transphobia, but I don’t think that’s meant here. And most importantly: I do not think TrickDacy is a transphobe – at least not in any sense that is relevant for this discussion. They have a blind spot where they forget that a joke can be misinterpreted by its viewers, and maybe a little lack of empathy for ignoring that I felt scared by the image’s joke, but it would be unfair calling them a transphobe. Their words did hurt, but not everything that hurts is transphobia.