• MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
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    This means it’s time to take down all those faces, restore the Six Grandfathers, and give it back to the Lakota Sioux.

    If anyone wants Rushmore back, make it out of concrete by a population center.

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      Maybe a large log swing goes in and out of it for people’s entertainment? Nah, too much cleaning.

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    FWIW,

    wp:Mount Rushmore

    Borglum chose Mount Rushmore in part because it faces southeast for maximum sun exposure. The carving was the idea of Doane Robinson, South Dakota’s state historian. Robinson originally wanted the sculpture to feature American West heroes, such as Lewis and Clark, their expedition guide Sacagawea, Oglala Lakota chief Red Cloud,[11] Buffalo Bill Cody,[12] and Oglala Lakota chief Crazy Horse.[13] Borglum, arguing that the sculpture should be national in scope rather than regional, convinced them to choose the four presidents instead.

    The sculpture at Mount Rushmore was built on land that was taken from the Sioux Nation in the 1870s.[16] The Sioux continue to demand return of the land, and in 1980 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians that the taking of the Black Hills required just compensation and awarded the tribe $102 million. The Sioux have refused the money, and demand the return of the land. This conflict continues, leading some critics of the monument to refer to it as a “Shrine of Hypocrisy”.[17]

    The peak that would later be known as Mount Rushmore is situated in the Black Hills, which has been inhabited by numerous indigenous groups over the centuries. The Ponca, Arikara, and Mandan were among the earliest recorded inhabitants, and were later displaced by the Kiowa, Plains Apache, and Shoshone. By 1800 those groups were supplanted by the Cheyenne, Arapaho, and Lakota Sioux, with the Lakota becoming the majority in the area by 1850.[18][19]

    Proposals to add additional faces

    In 1937, when the sculpture was not yet complete, a bill in Congress supporting the addition of women’s rights activist Susan B. Anthony failed. When the sculpture was completed in 1941, the sculptors said that the remaining rock was not suitable for additional carvings. This stance was shared by RESPEC, an engineering firm charged with monitoring the stability of the rock in 1989. Proposals of additional sculptures include John F. Kennedy after his assassination in 1963, and Ronald Reagan in 1985 and 1999 – the latter proposal receiving a debate in Congress at the time.[120] Barack Obama was asked about his own potential addition in 2008 and he joked that his ears were too large.[121]

    Donald Trump has expressed interest in his own addition to the mountain. During a 2017 rally in Ohio, Trump said, “I’d ask whether or not you some day think I will be on Mount Rushmore … If I did it joking, totally joking, having fun, the fake news media will say, ‘He believes he should be on Mount Rushmore.’ So I won’t say it.”[122] South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem described the potential addition as Trump’s “dream” in 2018.[123] On January 28, 2025, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) introduced a bill, H.R. 792, in the House of Representatives to add Trump’s likeness to the monument.[124]

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      Goddamnit! Sorry my family got involved folks. (Bill Cody is a second cousin, thrice removed. Or he was the second cousin of my great grandmother)

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        Those of us Europeans with long term roots in this continent, we have speckled history.

        Really though, we have nothing to apologize for… We weren’t involved and for many, any familial benefits realized are long gone.

        My own ancestors came off the Mayflower, and all but eradicated the Pequot tribe in Connecticut decades later.

        The history is pretty ugly and for sure there was lots of hypocrisy, lies and theft.

        No romanticizing my ancestral past… It’s not like I had anything to do with it and thankfully those people are dead and their wretched worldwiews went with them.

        Yaah, they were assholes. Sucks that it happened.

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    He could hire his pool guy to do a bad paint job of him somewhere in the vicinity. When it starts peeling in a few days, he can blame it on “antifa”.

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        Hard agree. I hope it topples over when they try. That mountain is supposed to be sacred.

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        Yeah, it’s also straight-up unfinished. They really just desecrated Indigenous land and didn’t even have the consistency in their shitty behaviour to carry it out completely.

        The current Idiot-in-chief adding his likeness to it would be like pissing on a shit cake.

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          In the defense of the incompleteness it’s more a side effect of original plans being scrapped due to rock strengthen. Basically it was originally going to be grander but those plans were largely scrapped due to rock strength and the original crews just kinda getting sick of working on it.

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    This has already been looked into, because he said he wanted to be on Mount Rushmore during his first term, and a bill was introduced last year to add him.

    No matter how much he may want it, it’s not possible; there’s not enough rock left on the mountain, and what’s there is too fragile to support it.

    The New York Times actually had a good article last year with 3D visualizations showing exactly why it can’t happen: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/27/us/mount-rushmore-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.vFA.N4J6.i9vauCc4EdSZ

    So at least there’s that.

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      I hope they try and then end up ruining the disgusting disgrace of a stolen Sioux mountain. This country is so gross.

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      “Too small, too thin, too fragile” - so… perfect for a Trump sculpture doomed to collapse before it’s completed…

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        Oh, they absolutely might still try. And if they do, they’ll probably irreversibly destroy some or all of the existing monument, which seems fitting for this administration.

        But at least it doesn’t seem possible that we’ll ever end up with Trump’s head up there, no matter how much he might want it, and it does make me a little happy to know that he can’t get everything he wants.

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      As if facts would stop the regime. I bet there’s some sort of a pool guy (and, purely coincidentally, Republican donor) that can pour that mug in concrete and nail it to the rock.

      I hope you’re not too attached to that monument - once everything collapses, there will be a sabotage/terrorism spinjob and they’ll start searching for a new rock face in which to carve Trump, Trump, Trump and Trump.

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        NYT has some pretty good infographics sometimes.

        I would absolutely not call this “cool” though. Sickening maybe.

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    Current White House says a lot of stupid shit… and does even more.

    Edit: if the addition of the pedophile is to symbolize everything that went wrong with America from beginning to end then, yes I’d have to agree with the White House I suppose.