• NoiseColor @lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Do we really have a problem with deniers?

    Don’t we actually have an issue with decision paralysis in eu?

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      13 days ago

      “Electric car mandate is ideological madness”

      “Biofuel should play a role in the energy transition”

      Those are from the prime ministers of the first and third EU country by population. It is better I do not quote opposition parties because starting from “CO2 is good for plants” there is a giant collection of deranged statements on the topic.

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        11 days ago

        Electric car mandates aren’t necessary. Just make them cheaper to buy, and create incentives to build charging infrastructure. They are cheaper to operate anyway, only need to be more convenient.

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          11 days ago

          Mandate forces change in investment from car company and speed up technology development. Euro emissions regulations are mandates. It is silly to undermine the role of those mandates in pushing EU car innovation and stronger protectionism position in the market. Europe automotive sectors was destroyed by corporate greed, and protected by mandates.

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            11 days ago

            The main reasons to not buy an electric vehicle are higher initial costs, range, and charging infrastructure. The first can be tackled by lower or no tax to buy, the last by public investment and good regulation.

            Charging stations across the EU should have been standardized, also with regards to payment a decade ago already. Or make it mandatory to build charging ports in parking and garages.

            European car makers had decent electric vehicles early on like the BMW i3 and Citroën Zero. Consumers weren’t buying them was the big hurdle.

            Of course manufacturers also didn’t want to be their own competitors and didn’t push their electric cars. Lots of inertia and lazyness in the industry.

            Tesla was the iPhone to the industry‘s Nokia. BYD is the cheap android smartphone.

            Norway had a high number of electric vehicles early on. The rest of Europe failed to copy them.

            Europe has dropped the ball in lots of areas for decades. We have lots of smart and highly educated people, even some excellent research. However there’s a failure to execute and turn it into successful businesses.

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              11 days ago

              Europeans are now buying Chinese EV with big tariffs on top. The problem is Europe EV are just bad and costs a lot. We lack the industrial sector to mass build reliable, cheap batteries. And we are falling more and more behind the Chinese competition. The lack of cheap battery storage is also a problem for the scaling of renewable.