• mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 days ago

    And if I follow your strategy, I’m seriously asking here - how many years before I get to vote for president for someone that I actually like? Like let’s say Mamdani - how long do you think it’ll be before I can vote for someone like him for president, according to you? I don’t wanna be called a perfectionist or a dreamer here, because I’ve specifically picked a real elected person.

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      2 years, in theory, if enough people spend it organizing and crafting a real movement too strong to ignore, big enough to kick down the doors and make it happen. Longer if they don’t, never if they won’t.

      If you are being genuine, this might be a help to you: https://chapters.dsausa.org/

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        Thanks for at least allotting some probability to me being genuine. The one thing I can’t stand these days is people acting like everyone who disagrees with them is doing it in bad faith.

        I am not sure what exactly you’re suggesting, though.

        But we also know that neoliberal Democratic Party elites offer a tepid vision of “inclusiveness” that refuses to challenge the oligarchic nature of U.S. society.

        https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/history/#founding

        Seems more in line with what I’ve been saying than what you’ve been saying, honestly. It’s certainly agreeable to me, but if this is an organization you feel a kinship with…I can’t help but feel that the kinds of memes I often see you posting are contrary to their goals. Unintentionally, I believe. Honestly, most of the left-divisive content I see in Lemmy comes from you in particular, to the point that when I see some of these things I think “did Godric post this? Oh, yep”.

        I’ll always keep reconsidering what actions I can take. Hope you’ll do the same

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          I’m suggesting you find your people and drag the american people left in a tangible way. I will take any useful ally in the fight against fascism, cheers to a moment of understanding!

          I firmly believe"Electorism bad" and “both sides bad, a month before election day” jagoffs are useless or stooges for redcaps, so I will continue to mock them. I genuinely hope they prove me wrong and do something constructive.

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            19 hours ago

            I genuinely hope they prove me wrong and do something constructive.

            They already are. You’re the one insisting the only possible solution to ascendant fascism is to keep doing the things that made Fascism a viable strategy for men who seek power.

            Hold your party accountable and force them to be better, even when the other party is getting worse. It’s the only non-violent way out of this.