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  • To use your comparison, CEOs selling solar panels are responding to scepticism about the stability of that supply and its elasticity to fluctuating power demand with vague promises of developing more advanced cells that can operate with less light and throttle the generated power during ebbs in demand. They buy land to install more solar panels, then lobby for the deactivation of other, flexible power sources that could supplement their supply until they can finally start charging more in times of high demand.

    To be honest, it seems to me that are not the CEOs of solar panel companies that belive that solar panel (and other renewable sources) are a drop in replacement for more traditional sources. This idea comes from a certain area of the political spectrum and groups that do not understand even the basic math behind the substitution of a gas turbine with a field of solar panels.

    Then it is true, CEOs are probably overselling, like everyone that has to sell something. And obviously they need to say that the technology will improve otherwise in the current economy they will be ignored and investment would go to other things.




  • No, I was pointing out that there are things EU can decide to do that make points that are behind AfD rising moot. Which is the solution if we want to solve the problem and not just hide it.

    Up until politicians do not understand that AfD (like the far right wing parties in general) are the effect and not the cause, AfD and the like will continue to rise.

    AfD has a xenophobic narrative ? Yes, of course. But they was also offered an easy target.
    Let’s be real: if there would not be all these illegal immigrant in our cities (I am sure that the problems we have near the Milano Central Station are common in many cities) AfD would not have a target. If we had done something when all the jobs were moved to cheaper countries they would not have a target. The rich are getting richer because we are allowing them to do so.(*)

    True, there would always be some fascist around, stupid people would always exist, but they would be just a small group of fanatics that are irrelevant like the dozens of other parties (never hear about the Popolo della Famiglia italian party for example ?) that get 0.something % votes at the elections.

    Silencing them it’s like sweeping dust under the rug: sure, you can’t see it, but the dust is still there and sooner or later it will come to bite you.

    (*) BTW, thinking that all the problems are caused by the rich getting richer is the same thing that thinking that all the problems are caused by immigration: it is false. Both of these thing are aspects of the same problem, not the cause per se.


  • Maybe because immigration was left unchecked for years and ended up creating ghettos, zones where it is impossible for people (especially women) to go after a certain time and zones where you walk surrounded by illegal immigrant that live by petty crimes (look at the Milano Central Station for example).

    In the end people notice it and started to change the attitude from “they need help” to “they are criminal and we don’t need them”.

    The sad thing is that this way we do not discriminate anymore between the legal immigrants, those who are integrated work and contribute to the society, and the illegal immigrant that are often just here thinking they can violate any law without consequences.
    While people generally had no problems with the legal immigrants, once the illegal immigrants become a problem the distinction mostly was gone and people started to look to all immigrants as a problem.

    Note that often also the legal immigrants do not want the illegal immingrants because (and that was told me by more the one legal immigrants) “when they [the illegal immigrants] cause problems, people look also at us as problems” and I agree that it is not fair to them (the legal immigrants) to be treated this way since often they work harder then us.



  • They are hoping to shut down AfD while staying in power.

    Then they are even more stupid…

    On an EU level, we cant really do more than this but its the least that needs to happen.

    Oh, yes, we can do way more.
    Think about to impose some sort of limitation to indiscriminate immigration, think about stopping to try to punish the members that do not accept illegal immigrants, think about starting to work to preserve the industries and workplace in Europe, think about how to make outsourcing production less cost-effective for those who do it.
    There are a lot of thing EU can do if they want.


  • You mean the problem that almost all media is controlled by right-wing billionaires?

    Maybe in the US this is true, not here

    yes, thats big problem. But it’s good to at least take away some power from the party

    No, you are not taking away some power from them, you are simply giving them more “weapons”. It would not be that difficult to frame this as “look, they want to silence us because we talk about $PROBLEM they caused”








  • I am not nitpicking specifics. I only said that if you think that Giorgia Meloni is fascist then we have a bigger problem with people like Vannacci and the like which are way far right then her.

    It is true that her party, Fratelli d’Italia, is an evolution of Alleanza Nazionale which was itself an evolution of the old Movimento Sociale Italiano but, as I said, to define them fascist is a long shot, if you think what was the fascist party.

    Moreover our Constitution forbid (XII disposizione) would have forbid it





  • Maybe another reason is that the center left continually ignore what the people are asking their government to do or that the center left is completely dissociated from the reality.

    I mean, if with a war going on in the middle east and all its consequences on the international commerce, the left’s (Italian to be precise and fair) priority in the european parliament is the battle over the air trasport of musical instruments (source in Italian) maybe there is a reason beyond the “someone is doing campaigns against center left and green parties”

    Also, as long as the center left in some way justify crimes “just because the criminal is from $UNLUCKY_GROUP_OF_THE_DAY”, I think the situation is pretty clear.