Oh sure, rape can certainly still be part of the term. No issue with that. Didn’t really think there was any reason it shouldn’t be. But “just” calling it rape seems an injustice.
One is argueing that no injustice took place (racism). The other is arguing that two injustices took place. That’s not the same.
Excellent attempt at a mic drop. You wouldn’t want to go and admit that you completely misread what I have been saying all along. That would just be horrible.
Perfect, anyone who is incapable of understanding this concept, please do block me. That will save me the trouble of having to explain to people who’s minds are made up and don’t want to rethink their opinion in light of new information.
No. It’s not like that.
Just like aggravated rape. It communicates additional crimes, and supports longer sentences.
So, since you only see what you want to, let me spell it out. They already have various categories of rape. Like aggravated rape and such. These are like rape+. I am saying a more descriptive term like that should be used to highlight the heinousness of the crime. But you refuse to see that. You just want to be righteous so bad you will make up something to be righteous about.
Yeah, but we know some judges and jury’s would accept this excuse. So using a more descriptive term would better represent the crime to those who might otherwise consider it less serious than it should be.
One is rape, and the other is like rape+. But the plus is getting lost without a more descriptive term.
Exactly, it’s more than just rape. It rape with intent to deceive or something. That’s why it needs a more descriptive term.
So the guy is also accused of not stopping when she said stop. That is also rape. Do you not see a problem with calling them both rape? Which sounds worse, 2 counts of rape. Or 1 count of rape and one count of <something more descriptive>. To me the second one conveys that he has a pattern of disregard for women beyond just one situation. I also think the condom thing shows intentional deception, where as he could claim he was too far into it to stop when she told him to. Combined as seperate things, they are more incriminating.
You loaded a lot of BS into my words that wasn’t there just to feel superior. Be a better person.
Then don’t be. Rape is too overloaded. Find a more descriptive term.
AI article? Or just clickbait? Waste water system is not the same as water supply.
This headline is BS. Trump doesn’t think that far forward. End of the day tops.
The post litterally contained “why is the press inventing the term…” I mean it is right there inviting a terminology discussion. But also, the lack of proper termonology has given defenders of rape an argument to distract from the crime. I want that taken away, and I want it clear what they did so people don’t just wave their hands and say… “but was it really”…
Also… I would argue many 18 year olds aren’t mature enough for a lot of decisions. Yet magically, convincing one to have sex is no longer a crime. The brain doesn’t finish developing until the early 20’s. I a, not saying the age of consent should be 21, just that it’s a nuance our terminology and laws don’t cover well.
The only thing I defended was the news people making up thier own terminology in the absence of terminology with enough nuance to capture the details…
Take statutory rape. It doesn’t distinguish enough.
If some 30 year old person ties down a fighting 5 year old and… straight to the gallows I say. If a 18.5 year old has consenual sex with a 17.9 year old, the gallows seem a bit extreme. But they are both statutory rape technically. Better terminology would make it easier to assign even harsher penalties than are already assigned for the base case. And they could remove some of the wiggle room it gives judges.
Yeah, but even statutory rape doesn’t distinguish enough.
If some 30 year old person ties down a fighting 5 year old and… straight to the gallows. If a 18.5 year old has consenual sex with a 17.9 year old, the gallows seem a bit extreme. But they are both statutory rape technically. Better terminology would make it easier to assign even harsher penalties than are already assigned for the base case. And they could remove some of the wiggle room it gives judges to be lenient when they shouldn’t be.
I am in favor of it being two charges. I really think there should be a bunch of them really. It’s just not one type of crime. It is many. Like raping a prepubescent child is a charge on top of rape, and likely another charge for abuse of trust position based rape as well. The punishment and required treatment are different than for raping a 17 year old who the person held no position of trust or power over (like a 22 year old boyfriend type situation). Currrently they are both just “rape” in some states.