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  • Where’s the pressure? Who’s making these files and trying to use them?

    The standards bodies and the companies that pay their bills. That’s Netflix, Google, et al. All have a vested interest in good multimedia support in browsers. It’s why browsers have shockingly good support actually, most of the problems are downstream on clients and implementations that don’t know or care to enable these newer formats.


  • What am I supposed to do?

    You decide what to target, and work with what you have. That’s how it’s always been with web technology.

    If you need to support the barest minimal possible clients then you might not even have HTML5. Otherwise, if you have HTML5 you can use the source tag to provide clients with a choice of formats/encodings and they can pick the one they support. If the clients can’t even mange that, well, things on the internet have always been broken anyway.

    And somebody’s gotta start somewhere, WebP was shoved down everyones’ throats and now it’s supported very broadly, as AVIF pick up users software devs will take notice and start supporting it.



  • I think that’s a reasonable way to look at it.

    It’s not the route I’d take, after all, the video tag in html supports specifying multiple sources (including different formats/encodings), and with full control of the stack (they vend Safari) you could have logic on devices without AV1 hardware that prefers the AVC/HEVC/VP9 sources instead — then fallback to AV1 SW if it’s the only option. That seems a better user experience than just failing to display content.











  • It’s a different world, there isn’t much driving VVC like there was for AVC and HEVC. There isn’t a new physical media format, and even the latest OTA TV specification is stuck on HEVC.

    It’s going to be up to streaming platforms what wins the next codec race, and a lot of them are betting on AV1 and AV2 for obvious reasons. I don’t see VVC really getting widespread adoption.