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  • I love how many upvotes this simplistic view gets on lemmy. EU passed strongest privacy laws on the planet, leading the way and inspiring many other countries to follow and now it’s actually enforcing them by punishing biggest corporations but the narrative on lemmy is still that they are terrible surveillance state. Why? Because they proposed a law that would force some social media sites with history of being used to groom children to do age verification while preserving privacy and encryption. A law that did not pass. The narrative that EU is fighting privacy is so stupid it just has to be propaganda. And we all know who’s spreading it.



  • Client side scanning is not yet here and won’t come with the current law. The can scan cloud storage and, if possible, messages.

    We’re talking about client side scanning of messages here. This is what Chat Control is about. What ‘client side scanning’ are you talking about?

    Voluntarily, the are not forced, but they are eager to do it.

    So I will ask again: why aren’t they? The are eager, it’s legal, it’s been legal for 5 years. Why aren’t they doing it?

    Why are you saying it will not come with current law? Chat Control 1.0 is about client side scanning of messages. Chat Control 2.0 doesn’t change that, it still protects E2E. Chat Control 2.0 is more about age verification, not about scanning messages. I don’t think we’re even talking about same thing.


  • Why do you think they are hiding it if it’s legal and well justified? (protecting children and so on?)

    This is not about breaking E2E, it’s client side scanning. I’m pretty sure they would be able to do it without the public getting mad about it, same as most people accept age verification. Introducing some client side scanning would not hurt their reputation. It’s legal, EU lets then do it. So why hide it? They would be detecting a lot of people sending CP to one another but they would just have to ignore it. If they would report it they would be admitting that they are secretly scanning the messages. If they don’t report it they risk lawsuits.

    IMHO it just doesn’t make sense for them to do it in secret. If they saw benefit in it they would just do it in the open.




  • Chat Control 1.0 was passed 5 years ago. For whatever reason big companies still don’t use it. Most likely they simply don’t see the point. They know breaking E2E would hurt their reputation, GDPR still applies and the cost of implementing all this is simply to high to justify it. I’m also guessing they don’t really want to be held legally responsible for what people send to each other in any way so prefer not to take part in policing it.

    Extending Chat Control 1.0 doesn’t change any of this so I don’t think meta or Google will take advantage of it now.




  • To the extent the world’s leadership has been willing to tolerate Trump and the belligerent U.S., it will open eyes and turn the world completely against the U.S…

    This already happened. The world’s leadership only tolerates Trump as much as necessary. You can’t kick someone out of NATO. Using atomic bomb may speed some things up but will not cause a dramatic shift in how other countries treat US.