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If that was true, the article and Zelensky surely would have said so.
Are you just mouthing off about what is and isn’t in the article without even checking? Because the article does in fact say so.
Thanks, I did read over that. But it’s still quite different from “unlawful”. It’s loaded language to preempt any discussion about democratic leadership. Clearly I’m not the only one thinking so, since at least Fedorov and quite a few protesters think so to.
Constitution says no elections during war. So holding elections is not in accordance with the constitution. In other words, unlawful.
Ukraine’s Constitutional Order in Wartime, it’s laws from 2015/2019, the constitution apparently speaks only of martial law / state of emergency.
So it’s not unlawful to lift martial law and hold elections, just practically impossible.
Is it really that different? Either way, the government is forbidden to run and hold an election. You could get pedantic about the difference between at war and under martial law, but given this is a defensive war in which they’re under active invasion, they’re functionally identical because of course the country under invasion enacted martial law.
I mean Fedorov thinks so, I imagine you would have to suspend martial law. Zelensky didn’t say it’s unlawful just that it would “destroy Ukraine”.
I imagine it would quickly devolve into the question on whether “Ukraine should continue fighting until it wins the war” (24% in 2024) or “Ukraine should seek to negotiate an ending to the war as soon as possible” (69% in 2024). Obviously opinion could have changed quite a bit since then. And Fedorov doesn’t seem to be the peace negotiation type either.
Should Ukrainians get a vote on that or not? If democracy is not for deciding such monumental questions, what is democracy for? Just saying “oh that’s unlawful for Ukrainians to vote” is I think a bit… different.
Not that I think the terms Russia might dangle for a peace agreement would make for a good election platform lol. They want Ukraine to be neutral, reduce it’s army, and want to keep the territory they conquered. And would probably also not agree to a ceasefire because they believe it would give Ukraine the opportunity to regroup.
But again impossible doesn’t mean unlawful.
Except not even Federov thinks so because if you click through to the source on his call for elections, he’s saying they basically need a way to hold elections, not that they have a way and aren’t using it.
I’m honestly not sure if this is just a power play which would be pretty insane, or something else. Someone mentioned this was about the strategy of using drones or how to use them or something. It’s probably impossible to know right now since both sides heavily obscure the reality of the situation.
Does the article explicitly state that Kyiv is the capital of Ukraine? Some things don’t have to be stated every time.
Except it’s not true.
If you can follow common sense and think a bit further, that is on you
It’s explicitly not true that it’s “unlawful” since they could suspend martial law and hold elections, or do some other kind of referendum. Personally I think it’s “common sense” that the Ukrainian people should get a voice in how to fight or end this war. See my other comment for further thoughts.
I think your common sense is broken.
It’s like if you were actively avoiding to acknowledge the real reason why ukrainians shouldn’t have ellections right now. Thats where your common sense dies… that’s terrible cause i cant take your comments seriously.
“Safe and realistic”… you understand that having Russia on the border makes “safe and realistic ellections” an utopia?
Don’t you see what you’re doing? First I was responding to a “common sense” argument which is just a thought terminating cliche. Second it’s not ME saying “they should have elections”. It’s YOU people saying “That is unlawful!” or literally “Ukranians shouldn’t elections” while the Ukrainians are saying they should have some way to do this.
YOU are interfering in the democratic processes of an independent country. This is what all this “common sense” boils down to.
It’s not so easy when Russia’s spreading disinformation and Donald’s regurgitating it.
But smart people write about Ukraine’s Constitutional Order in Wartime: Elections, Continuity, and Legitimacy
The article’s conclusion: