• Skua@kbin.earth
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 day ago

    I don’t think that the logic holds here. There absolutely are people who take the pro-Palestinian side not because they actually oppose what Israel is doing, but because they hate Jews and see it as an opportunity to “justify” that hatred

    A good example is the former British National Party leader Nick Griffin. Thankfully, he is no longer active in politics and wasn’t very good at it when he was, but he makes for a good example. He was simultaneously anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic, and anti-Muslim because he was just a massive fucking racist stain on society

    It’s good that people like Griffin aren’t leading the conversation. They are out there, though, and we ought to be wary of them

    • okamiueru@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      18 hours ago

      You’re absolute right.

      My point was that it becomes impossible to discern underlying motive, when they (Israel) are actively carrying out a genocide on a 50% child population.

      Consider a Venn diagram for being critical of Israel’s ongoing genocide, with the following circles:

      • A: They are Jewish
      • B: They are carrying out a genocide

      Israel’s argument that “you’re against Israel because of antisemitism”, suggests that the area with only A, is significant. How many are critical of Israel’s genocide, not because of the genocide, but because they are Jewish? It’s would be such an absurd thing to argue.

    • amio@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      They exist, but I wonder how much that group really matters in the big picture. Anecdotally I’ve never seen this angle in my life, except as a Zionist talking point aiming to delegitimize criticism. Russia, too, is a huge fan of that tactic: got an issue with genocide, wow, can’t believe you’d be that russophobic, big honking crocodile tears, Sad-imir Putin. The Zionists have been equally blatant.