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    2 years ago

    I’d have taken “not making abortion illegal nation wide” but I guess even that was too little for many.

    I honestly think people just don’t realize how much worse it can get. We all get to see together now.

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      2 years ago

      not making abortion illegal nation wide

      Didn’t we just have a four year democratic regime? What happened? Did they just forget? On Jan 6th, will Biden go “oh shoot! We were supposed to do something about abortion rights! Ah well, next presidency.”

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          2 years ago

          The same way regardless of whether the democrats or the republicans are in power.

          • capital@lemmy.world
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            2 years ago

            Ok, are you under the impression Dems would get help passing this abortion protection bill from Republicans?

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              2 years ago

              You must realize that you have kind of an inconsistent view of the efficacy of the oval office. When the republicans are in power, or are about to be, this is something to be feared, and they’ll turn the country into a banana republic, and they’ll curtail all civil rights. But when a democratic is in power, the presidency becomes this meaningless ceremonial role that can’t really do anything because of those darned republicans, and so you can’t really blame them for not making any meaningful change. This is clearly internally inconsistent. One of these two opinions is false. Either the presidency can be used to effect meaningful change, or it cannot. You can’t believe both.

              I think the republicans show that the former is true. Whether you like it or not (I certainly don’t), whenever the republicans are in power they’re able to enact massive impactful changes (the changes which eventually led to the overturning of Roe v Wade are a good example). The reasons as to why the democrats do not enact such changes is up for debate, but the idea that they don’t because they can’t is demonstrably false.

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                2 years ago

                This is a long-winded non answer.

                How do Dems pass abortion protection laws without overwhelming control of the House, Senate, and Presidency?

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                  13 days ago

                  If you think they have to control the Senate in order to do anything then you are undermining the entire point of your call to action. The Senate is structurally a minoritarian body. 70% of the US population is represented by 34% of the Senate. That means that the Senate supermajority is determined by 30% of the population.

                  This cannot be fixed with voting.