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I dunno what they’re expecting. He said the allegations were false. Why would he do that and then give “contrition and humility” to the people that supposedly made horrendous false allegations against him that torpedoed his career?
It goes deeper than that because the person who’s accusing him stated plainly that he was actually blackout drunk when the incident occurred and that he didn’t remember it the next morning.
Though I got to say for me, my doubt about him came several weeks ago when it was revealed that he had a Kik account he had been using up till less than a year ago that he was using to meet women. And if you know anything about Kik, you know that’s a very concerning thing. People use that platform are not good people.
What’s crazy is everyone acting like he was “forced” to do this.
Dude could have 100% just stayed in the race, no one had the authority to make him drop out.
If he was half the monster the media has been wanting us to believe he is, he definitely would have stayed in the race, and no one could have done anything about it.
He got Franklen’d
Edit:
Chuck Schumer did say he’d cut of DSCC support…
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dscc-says-it-will-pull-funding-from-maine-senate-race-if-platner-doesn-t-drop-out/ar-AA27lokf
For those who don’t know DSCC is what Schumer and the neoliberals still control after losing the DNC, it’s really not that important, but it’s wild so many accounts are suddenly showing up on Schumer and Israel’s side on this.
Even if they just fell for the propaganda, it’s not a good sign for midterms they were fooled so easily, and since it worked it’s going to be more prevelent.
The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee is the Democrats’ fundraising arm specifically for Senate races. It has been an entity for more than 100 years.
It’s not “what Schumer and the neoliberals still control after losing the DNC.” I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.
It’s important because it’s one of the major three national Democratic Party committees that collect and spend funds on federal-level elections. (Republicans have parallel committees, too.)
Withholding funds from a specific Senate race is a pretty serious step for the party to take.
I meant they are two distinct organizations:
DNC
DSCC
And that since the neoliberals lost the DNC, they keep acting like the DSCC is important.
If you had been asking questions instead of making false statements and waiting for someone to correct you, I’d have linked some resources for how much the DSCC normally pays, and how much the DNC has been paying since the neoliberals got the boot.
Now I’m never going to see any of your comments again instead.
Fuck Schumer, fuck the DNC and fuck all the idiots that thought it was a good idea to run a guy that had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for 18 years as a progressive.
He was also a guard at Abu Ghraib… during the torture and systematic sexual assaults. And then he joined up with blackwater because he hadn’t had enough killing.
But hey! Anti-establishment hero, amirite?!?!? Real shame there was a concentrated smear campaign run on a politician in an important race. Damn you secret establishment cabal!
Franken was not credibly accused of rape and sexual sexual assaults… Maybe he stopped because if he didn’t there would actually be a criminal investigation. You know, because of the crimes?
Just the fact that he re-enlisted twice to go to unjust wars and then signed up to be a mercenary makes him a monster. The rape and Nazi tattoo just adds more fuel to an already burning pile of shit.
People have been saying this shit for over a year. You just claim anyone who disagrees with your terrible takes have fallen for propaganda.
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Who told you that?
And more importantly why did you believe them?
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Like a totenkopf is much better?
We don’t need to relitigate this. That tattoo along with everything else should have made it clear he wasn’t a good candidate. If we had heeded those warning signs, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
According to lemmy absolutely nobody could every recognize a totenkopf as an exclusively Nazi symbol worn by the SS. Same motherfuckers will post a GIF from inglorious basterds. The death’s head is a well known recognizable Nazi symbol everywhere but lemmy apparently.
I had never heard the term totenkopf before this guy.
Ive seen thousands of skulls in various ways. I still don’t know what makes something a totenkopf and what makes it not one, definatively
I’m aware it was used by nazis, but wouldn’t have ever questioned in without the SS tag or swastika.
Good for you. It’s still an incredibly recognizable exclusively Nazi with a capital N symbol.
It’s not at all exclusive to nazis. Hundreds of people/organizations have used a skull and crossbones
The left has a real problem with intersectionality and excusing American imperialism. Platner should have never had the support he did to begin with and it’s incredibly disheartening to see others on the left argue that he was going to be our Leftist Saviour when this is his past:
He talks about ignoring US orders to stop firing explosive devices at Iraqi civilians. He brags about how his unit came up with a way to rig up their equipment so they could shoot grenades at them. I want to be clear the US military ordered them to stop shooting mortars in densely populated civilian areas because they were killing so many people.
He brags about fighting to defend Abu ghraib against Iraqi freedom fighters that were trying to liberate the torture and rape facility
He jokes about urinating on dead bodies in Afghanistan.
We can also examine some of his claims and opinions on social media.
He talks about how he’s regretful he did not participate in the American Indian wars (the US conducted genocide against the indigenous population of the area nowadays referred to as the mainland United States) and the Haitian intervention.
He talks about how to defeat Isis American needs to kill millions of people in the Middle East and that America should do it, even if it takes decades of killing.
I don’t believe for a second that this man had no idea what a totenkopf was. MAYBE when he first got it, but the years after? No way.
Okay there are two problems here:
First the idea that Nazis get to monopolize skulls and crossbones is utterly ridiculous. The same kind of ridiculous as picking fights with Buddhists for using swastikas—and just in case, the idea that Nazi swastikas are oriented differently from religious ones is false; religious swastikas come in all orientations. Second the (very believable) story is that he didn’t know it was a Nazi symbol. At that point the burden of proof is on the accuser.
Yeah, it’s far more likely that he wanted a cool tattoo, went to a tattoo place, saw a cool skull, and said “yeah, that one” without knowing that there was lore behind it. And he had it removed. People are allowed to not know everything, people are allowed to make mistakes, and I applaud people who admit their mistakes and seek to correct them.
Platner had a ton of baggage, some more warranted than others. This one was a nothing burger. But he’s dropped out for a maybe credible real problem, so we let that play out while looking for somebody else to run for Senate. It can’t be that hard to find somebody with a similar message and less baggage. Just somebody who will fight this class war for us, who can reach conservatives with that message, and who hasn’t done any raping. Is that such a high bar?
Any tattoo place displaying a totenkopf is displaying ss runes and swastikas right next to it. Because only Nazi tattoo shops give Nazi tattoos. Anyone that knows anything about tattoo culture knows this. Nobody accidentally gets a Nazi tattoo.
You’re forgetting “who can beat the establishment at the media game.” That’s the real bottleneck here, and either way grassroots campaigns take time to get going. Save for a major upset occurring, this is now a tossup between the libs and the fascists.
I’m not sure why you are catching strays for this. I think your comment brings up good points.
I think that people are getting sick of fake bullshit artists like Jeffries. I’m optimistic that given a choice between a squeaky clean, media-trained establishment dem and a blue collar, bearded, confident guy preaching the blunt truth about how we’re all getting fucked by the oligarchs, most people pick the latter.
As the boomers die, the only people left will be the people who have seen only the failures of capitalism and none of the successes. In just the past 20 years, what wins can we point to? Because I can point out the 08 housing crisis recession, minimum wage stagnation, Citizens United in 2010, market monopolization, the European sovereign debt crisis, refusal to lockdown during COVID because of how it would affect the economy, the inflation and supply chain results of mishandling COVID (not to mention the absurd death toll), the current and future results of attacking Iran, and the imminent crash when the AI bubble pops while so much of the market “diversity” is attached to tech companies accruing insane debt for something yet to be proven profitable.
This shit just ain’t working, and I think that all it takes is a charismatic person pointing that out and then saying “here’s my solution for that…” and they win. Stop smiling. Be pissed. “They’re fucking us. Let me fight them for you. I’m tired of writing to Senators who autogenerate bullshit responses, I’m ready to be the Senator that fixes this shit. Let me represent how pissed off you are at this system that’s fucking the people of our state.”
It wasn’t a believable story when Platner was obsessed with the military throughout most of his life.
Supporters wanted plausible deniability and it blew up in everyone’s face.
And why should interest in the military directly lead to Nazi symbols?
Have you read into Platner at all?
He absolutely had an interest in both of the world wars.
I’m not going to debate you whether a man who has voluntarily signed up for military tours multiple times knows about war history and Nazis. I’m just not. No one is stupid enough to believe that Platner at no point in his life knew that tattoo wasn’t just a skull and crossbones.