For a while now the transition away from Manifest V2 (MV2) to MV3 has been on-going and it looks like it is entering its final phase of deprecation, at least, in the case of Google Chrome. A recent discussion thread in the w3c WebExtensions Community Group GitHub repo has highlighted how the latest and upcoming versions of the most popular browser are expected to be its final releases with support for MV2 extensions.

What this essentially means is that the tricks and bypasses that were used to keep MV2 extensions like uBlock Origin and others alive will not work any more on Chrome, or at least not for very long. For example the Windows Registry mod that could extend MV2 availability will cease to function after Chromium version 151.

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      3 months ago

      Yep, sorry but not sorry. Advertisements aren’t safe. The industry has been ruined by bad actors and it’s a shame, but also not my problem.

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        3 months ago

        I worked in ads only a few months and learned how fucked that industry was. They’re basically given license to just run scripts in your browser, sucking as much info as they can. The fact that it hasn’t been regulated to hell is shocking, and truly a failure of all leaders.

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          3 months ago

          They’re basically given license to just run scripts in your browser

          That’s the crazy thing.

          You want to show me an image, maybe an animated gif, and link it to your website where you’re selling shit? Fine. Annoying, but fine.

          But I don’t care how many crocodile tears they shed about ‘but websites depend on ad income’ – I am not letting random, unvetted advertisers run arbitrary code on my computer. I don’t care if it’s in a sandbox inside a sandbox. Exploits may be found, sandboxes may be escaped. And there’s plenty of trouble they can get into even within their little sandbox, like running a fucking crypto miner or something.

          So, yeah. Adblock and noscript everywhere and always.

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            Yes, they can host a GIF on their server & show it to me with a non-personalized link, & promote it where they believe the average reader might be interested in it. Or some reader(s).

            Just show me the ads you’re showing everybody else, and make money from sales of useful things & services.

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    3 months ago

    Firefox and its derivatives (and Safari - sorry Apple users) are the only browsers not using Google’s Blink web engine these days - at least until Ladybird is released.

    Despite the Mozilla Foundation’s many stupid decisions, Firefox (and Safari) is starting to look like the only thing stopping Google from completely controlling the internet.

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      God I hope Ladybird will work. I’m so done with Google. And the fact that Firefox is dependant on their money leaves a bad aftertaste, everytime I open a browser. Even though I use Zen.

      Fingers crossed for Ladybird and a stable Alpha release in 2026 🤞

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    I see a lot of comments (justifiably) touting firefox’s superiority… but the performance difference is night and day.

    My main pc has very weak hardware, and my browser is the most resource intensive application I run. In my environment, I can’t leave firefox open with other heavy apps running simultaneously, but I can leave chrome open.

    I’ve used firefox for decades in the past, but the gap is huge and it doesn’t look like Mozilla will make the engine changes necessary to close it. Idk if things have changed, but I remember when they axed the Servo team.

    I’ve been using Ungoogled Chromium and I’m hoping this doesn’t affect me for a while… but if I have to choose between ads and closing my browser to run heavy apps, I guess I’ll be reinstalling firefox.

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      Performance night and day? I don’t think so lol. I daily Firefox. It works fine.

      And even if it didn’t and it was slower… I’ll take slower over all those fucking shit ads

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        Yeah, of course ads aren’t an option, but ungoogled chromium still supports mv2 for now and I can’t watch a youtube video and play a video game at the same time with firefox on my machine…

        Granted, I’m probably trying to make inadequate hardware do more than it should, but chromium works and I don’t want to upgrade my hardware right now.

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          Now this in curious about. Why can’t you do both at once?

          I daily game with Firefox and dozens of tabs open. Granted in using Linux.

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            Youtube is especially egregious. I’ve tried various hardware acceleration settings and h264ify but it really brings my pc to its knees.

            Im on linux, and when I run my windows vm (qemu kvm) with either Visual Studio, SQL Server Management Studio, or Fusion 360 in it, firefox on my host machine runnimg youtube just barely pushes it over the edge.

            I absolutely recognize how wild what I’m asking this little computer to do is, but I can just get away with it in chromium but not firefox (since the last time I checked)

            The day I can do it all with firefox I will be a happy camper

            Edit: also, I specifically said games but didn’t name one… FFXIV and Deadlock both crash if I’m running youtube in chrome (and Discord at the same time).

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              I play elden ring, nightreign, harry Potter Hogwarts legacy, doom 2016 and eternal and a whole bunch of other shit. No issues.

              Also use YouTube. No issues.

              Are you using open source video drivers perhaps?

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                I’m using an AMD APU, so just the regular mesa drivers.

                The last time I had issues was about a year and a half ago, and I switched to Brave, but a year later (5 months ago) I was convinced to give Ungoogled Chromium another chance by someone here on lemmy (because of all the controversy surrounding Brave).

                In the past I always used firefox because its customization features are so much richer, settings werent intrinsically tied to google (or amputated like in ungoogled), and the source code is more comprehensible (firefox is so neatly organized and easy to build yourself, and chromium is a giant mess under the hood).

                I really want to use firefox again… maybe I’ll get a dell precision tower off ebay and shove a cheap old nvidia card in it with the proprietary drivers to solve my problems 😅

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                  3 months ago

                  I’ve been on nvidia forever at this point. Personally looking forward to getting back to AMD next time around. They are more open with their drivers. You should try the AMD proprietary drivers instead.

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    3 months ago

    Oh look all the “chrome but in a different outfit” browsers are doing the same terrible shit? What a shocker, no one could have predicted that the many many things all on the same base where actuality just fake competition.