• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    7 days ago

    I had an argument with a co-worker who joined the Young Democrats about the lobby part.

    Both parties want lobbies, BAD. My argument is that 90% of the issues with the parties stem from bribery and lobbying. Those positions should not attract the mega-wealthy, they should not provide unchecked power to make those people and their friends mega-wealthy. Those positions should pull large salaries and no extra benefits. They should be on the same level of healthcare as any enterprise company.

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      7 days ago

      Both parties want lobbies, but most citizens do not; most actual voters, when asked directly about the issue, oppose money in politics and want to repeal Citizens United.

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      Actual lobbying is a good thing. It’s informing a politician about an issue you want addressed.

      During my wife’s masters degree she had to lobby to a state representative. The issue she was lobbying was not putting parents who were convicted of non-violent crimes in prison.

      Actual lobbying rarely happens, though.

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        Lobbying should be done by citizens, lobbyists that bribe politicians should be laid off. The former is a citizen, the latter is their job which should be a no no.

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        Well, kinda. Lobbying can be about simply informing a politician

        Who lobbies. Corporations, trade associations, labor unions, nonprofits, universities, cities and states, and foreign governments all lobby. Some hire outside lobbying firms (often staffed by former members of Congress, congressional aides, or agency officials); others employ their own in-house government affairs staff. Last year, external firms took in $2.76 billion versus $2.46 billion for in-house operations, the first time on record that firms accounted for the majority of federal lobbying spending.

        2.76 Billion.

        Other sites put lobbying over 5 billion in 2005

        There are only 13k registered lobbyists.

        It is not a “good thing” that billionaires and their corporations pay billions to influence law.

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          That’s why I specified actual lobbying. Most of those companies are just covers for bribery.

          But lobbying and bribery aren’t inherently mutually inclusive.