• yesman@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Guns equating to freedom is straight up NRA propaganda. Do we really think people in Australia, the UK, and Japan are oppressed by tyranny?

    The 2nd is the only “right” that the lowest government official can execute you for exercising. That’s what passes for freedom in America?

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        What, into some kind of, what, a militia?

        I mean, I guess so, but what about regulations? Would they be well?

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          Militias don’t last long here in the IS, because the moment they get organized and large enough to actually do something the government raids them and incarcerates them.

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            That’s one of the reasons Palantir is being contracted for law enforcement and national security at the Federal level. The whole point is to detect early when a community is organizing, then paint the key figures as Antifa and incarcerate them permanently.

            It’s part of Peter Thiel’s vision of using technology to bypass democracy and create a techno-feudal corporate state.

            It’s absolutely not going to go as well as he believes, but a lot of people are going to suffer in the meantime.

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      This is one of those things where there is a workable middle ground.

      There isn’t anything inherently wrong with gun ownership, but it should be heavily regulated and require a license which to acquire, requires that you prove you have a fundamental level of safety.

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      7 days ago

      Do we really think people in Australia, the UK, and Japan are oppressed by tyranny?

      i-think-that Yes obviously because they are states, and they impose capitalist economies on their subjects anarchy

      The 2nd is the only “right” that the lowest government official can execute you for exercising.

      Nah, the lowest government official might execute you for exercising any right or none at all, especially if you’re Black or Indigenous. AmeriKKKa

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      The UK and Australia are certainly experiencing some authoritarian tyranny. They’re not dealing with the decay that the US currently is, but it’s clear that wealth and power are consolidating there.

      I’d blame years of softening up with neoliberal policies. That may not be the only factor, but a lot of economists are saying it is a factor.

      As for freedom in the US, we lost a great amount of it during the George W. Bush administration, quietly, as SCOTUS carved to pieces the fourth and fifth amendments to the Constitution of the United States. Slowly but surely, poor whites were getting the same treatment that blacks and browns had been getting through the twentieth century, though Karens often don’t know they’ve lost those rights until confronted by law enforcement. The US saw the true nature of police in the US during the Ferguson unrest in 2014 after the killing of Michael Brown, which was streamed to the public via social media, rather than filtered through mainstream television news.

      Since then we learned that Blacks couldn’t own guns or would risk summary execution by law enforcement, and that policy has been extended to anyone caught in opposition to a state agent. Meanwhile right-wing civilians bearing arms and aligned with the police are given leniency when they kill someone.

      In fact, we Americans have not had liberty for a long, long time.