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I disagree that he is succeeding in that by going through the DSA and focusing so hard on electoralism. It’s important to understand the necessity of democratic centralism and consistent revolutionary rhetoric, because otherwise we fall into the same problems as the second international and the SPD.
Democratic Centralism…? Oooooh you’re a Tankie, I got it. I just noticed the domain.
Go back to your HoI4 campaign bud, and let the grownups do actual politics.
I’m a communist and organize for socialism. Democratic centralism is a core function of successful party-building. Infantilizing me for speaking on what I know from both historical study and practical experience as an organizer within the framework of democratic centralism is childish. How are you going to convince others of your views if you act like this? Even Hasan doesn’t criticize demcent like this, and speaks very positively of demcent organizations.
For what it’s worth, I’ve never played HoI4 either.
Then what’s your problem??
Dawg, if you don’t think Hasan Piker is left enough to be a Communist, idk what to tell you. It’s just a silly thing to say.
My issues with Hasan are that he pushes a reformist line, and focuses primarily on electoralism. I’m not some hater of Hasan, but those two positions put him squarely into social democratic territory. It’s not about some arbitrary level of “leftness,” it’s two strategic positions he has that puts him at odds with communist struggle. And no, it isn’t a silly issue at all, the concept of reformism vs revolution is an active struggle among the left in the imperial core, and the communist line historically is 100% in favor of revolution since Marx.
So… He’s a Communist in every way anyone would care about, except for you, because he’s not actively attempting to overthrow the US government? Before building a support base for a revolution?
So you can only be a Communist if you’re suicidal, I guess?
Ffs even Marx himself participated in electoral politics. Revolution was always the inevitable outcome of struggle against bourgeois democracy failing to respond to the crises bared by the proletariat.
He’s using the strategies available to him now, just like me and you, and everyone else ever before us, and everyone else long after.
Again, this is just a big silly argument, drawing lines in the sand for no good reason. Calling some other Marxist organizer “at odds to the Communist struggle” while he delivers aid to Cubans and shining a light on their revolutionary struggle.
This is silly.
You are being silly.
Stop being silly.
No? I have no idea where you got these ideas. Revolutionary organizing doesn’t necessarily mean throwing your life away, it means building an explicitly revolutionary and disciplined organization of cadre. These revolutionary organizations can participate in elections to advertise their platforms and grow the movement, but the understanding is always that you cannot establish socialism through reform. Marx himself was a revolutionary, not a reformist.
Again, I am not some Hasan hater. He’s not an anti-communist, but his positions are those of a social democrat sympathetic to communism and socialism. That’s not “silly,” it’s taking a consistent stance based in Marxist understandings of revolutionary change and the class nature of the state.
Revolution doesn’t just “happen,” you have to organize for it directly. Crisis is not the same as an assured revolution, to actually get revolution you need a revolutionary party leading the charge.