• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    You can build or buy a lot more computer than the Steam Machine for $3000, even at today’s absurd component prices. I’m not quite sure which is more moronic, trying to scalp a Steam Machine for that price or somebody actually paying it.

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      13 days ago

      Scalpers are low lifes who don’t necessarily know much about the products they scalp. They must have thought it was going to be the same as the last few generations of gaming console releases.

      I also believe that the typical potential customer for a Steam Machine will know better.

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        13 days ago

        I’ll always remember going to a rise against concert and scalpers outside were saying “tickets for rise against the machine”, they have no idea what they are selling

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      12 days ago

      “If you pirate games, you’re part of the problem.”

      Scalpers exists because Valve’s supply chains is weak and their commerce channel is poor. If you can buy from a scalper and get the machine on launch day, or pay Valve and get it in 9 months, then the value proposition is clear and obvious. I won’t defend scalpers, just like I won’t defend scene pirates like FitGirl. I’m sure most of them are scammers, but scalping is a service problem as well. People are paying for convenience and access*. Similarly to stuff like ticket scalping, they are all scumbags, but they exist as a failure of marketing, not because of the moral failure of the buyers. They are just using their only means of access and convenience left, once the real seller abandoned them as customers.

      EDIT: I know a lot of people will downvote due to the piracy comparison. But remember that Valve ships hardware to only 10% of the world. Specifically the global North and the westernized world. Everyone else can’t even get to the lottery. On the other hand, there’s no problem for most of the planet on acquiring any current console or pre-build PC. While at the same time they have publicly said they have issues acquiring their necessary OEM parts to manufacture their hardware. Valve has a supply chain problem, and scalpers are abusing that. These scalpers are not artificially creating scarcity by buying all existing stock to charge higher prices, they are abusing the already existing scarcity and extremely high demand. Scalping is a service problem, get to terms with that.

      *: even if they are rich fucks with FOMO and more money than sense. They are still buying convenience that Valve can’t offer right now.

      • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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        12 days ago

        “If you pirate games, you’re part of the problem.”

        False equivalent.

        Nobody is giving Pirates money.