• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Except in practice, when rich people are allowed to participate in the political process, they use their wealth to influence everything. So in the West, we technically have democracies, but in practice we actually have oligarchies where the entire system is set up to empower the wealthy and prevent the working class from gaining real power. Since China doesn’t allow the capitalists to participate in politics, their democracy remains in the hands of the people.

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      18 hours ago

      It would be extremely naive to think that the wealth doesn’t influence Party Politics in China.

      And there is no democracy in China. Electoral Democracy is one of the core pillars of Democracy itself, without it, it simply isn’t democratic. For that to be true in China there would have to be elections where everyone gets to vote.

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          12 hours ago

          Sure, and those definitely aren’t just Ji Jinpings political enemies that he is eliminating, as is usual in an authoritarian state.

          And yeah, no. That’s not what Electoral Democracy is. Or when was the last time a different party with different ideas was elected to Power in China?

          Honestly, the lengths tankies go to in order to convince themselves China is a Democracy is insane. Literally 1984 DoubleThink.

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            5 hours ago

            I used to think that too, then I started learning things. Always remember that the capitalists want you to think communism is the worst possible thing. Your opinions on China are based almost entirely on anti-communist propaganda designed to protect the oligarchies of the West.

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              4 hours ago

              then I started learning things

              Apparently not about democracy. I’ll ask again, when was the last time China held a general election which allowed opposition parties?

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                3 hours ago

                Democracy isn’t defined by allowing opposition parties, it is defined by how closely the government follows the will of the people. And socialist governments almost universally are significantly more aligned with their people than capitalist states. China’s CPC has a 90+% satisfaction rating, most US governments never get above 40%. Capitalist states have the illusion of democracy, socialist states actually have it.